Re: Only the Lonely / George J. Dance

[email protected] (Will-Dockery)
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> michaelmaleficapendragon@ wrote:
> [email protected] (Will-Dockery) posted:
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>> michaelmaleficapendragon@ wrote:
>> [email protected] (Will-Dockery) posted:
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>> michaelmaleficapendragon@ wrote:
>> [email protected] (Will-Dockery) posted:
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>> michaelmaleficapendragon@ wrote:
>> Will Dockery <user3274> posted:
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>> [email protected] <user17124> posted:
>> [email protected] (George J. Dance) posted:
>> Will-Dockery wrote:
>> George J. Dance wrote:
>> michaelmaleficapendragon@ wrote:
>> [email protected] (George J. Dance) posted:
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>> Only the Lonely
>> 
>> The man in shades
>> strides to the mic
>> and declares,
>> "Only the lonely
>> know the way I feel tonight ..."
>> " and ten thousand screaming,
>> chanting fans wedged up against
>> each other in the hall all together
>> suddenly feel so
>> lonely.
>> 
>> --
>> George J. Dance, 2010
>> from Doggerel, and other doggerel, 2015.
>> 
>> [All rights reserved by the author - Used with permission]
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>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/03/orbison-man-in-shades-strides-to-mic.html
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>> Commentary: This poem was posted on aapc in the Sunday Sampler
>> 10 years ago. It appears on the original, 'rough' thread, but was left
>> out of the Official Sampler thread for the week. The editor of that week's
>> Michael Pendragon, said that the omission was an mistake, but if so
>> it was never corrected.
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>> Mistakes happen, Dunce.
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>> If you'll recall, the Sampler submission thread was a mix of poems, comments, and (most likely) hissyfit posts by the Donkey and his Stink.
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>> I would be up late, sifting through all that sludge and copy/pasting the poems into a single thread, and editing them for typos.  It was very easy to overlook a short poem.
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>> There was no means of editing the Sample once it posted.  And, IIRC, you'd already posted your poem to the bottom of it (the first post after the edited publication), so there was nothing more for me to do.
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>> That you would still be upset about this 10 years later only drives home the fact that you're a petty, bitter person.
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>> I wouldn't say I was upset about it at the time, since this was the second time you'd cut one of my poems, and I was having to get used to it. Besides, as you note, you didn't keep my poem off the "Official" thread.
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>> I was a bit upset the day before I opened this thread, when you falsely accused my of lying (about having poems cut from the "Official" Sampler); but, again, being falsely accused by you of lying is something I've had to get used to.
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>> I'll deal with your "critique" in a separate post.
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>> It did seem strange and out of character at the time, or even that Michael Pendragon would have made such a blunder.
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>> It almost has to have been intentional on some level.
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>> I've spent today reading the thread,
>> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/zUX1uXT-wPI/m/Iz8FughIAwAJ
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>> Indeed it was intentional. It turns out that he had me in "ignore mode", the same thing he was advising you to do in response to the trolling of you by Cujo and others. That's not a killfile, of course; you can see that the other person is person is posting, but you don't read the posts. Which is what he did wrt mine; he saw my post, but intentionally decided not to read it.
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>> He said that he did see your "Nice one" comment, but that he didn't know it referred to a posted poem; so it was also left off, of the "comments" post that he included.
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>> It may not surprise you that almost everything he's saying now about that thread is untrue. I may make a more comprehensive list, but here's one that concerns you. He's now claiming that most of the "trolling" he edited out came from you and Zod, who were having "hissy-fits" in the Sampler. In fact, at the time you and he were on friendly terms -- he was fighting with Pick (and me), and trying to keep you out of that -- and even praising each other's Sampler Poem. While Zod didn't even post in the thread.
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>> But that's par for the course. There are good reasons he got the nickname "HarryLiar", after all.
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>> This response appears in the discussion at:
>> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=703674682#703674682
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>> you had announced that you were boycotting the Sampler because I'd been chosen as guest editor that week, and would not be submitting a poem to it.
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>> Why should I open a post from someone who's boycotting the magazine out of spite?
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>> Under the circumstances, I'd assumed that you were making one of your snotty remarks about someone else's poem (probably one of mine).
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>> If you suddenly decided to end your boycott, it was up to you to have informed me.
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>> In any case, you were not banned from The Sampler until several years later when you falsely accused me of only publishing my friends
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>> Nobody would expect you to publish your enemies, after all.
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>> Do you have any memory of The Sunday Sampler
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>> It was created as a place where *everyone* would come together once a week, put all of their fighting aside, and discuss one another's poetry.
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>> The whole reason for its existence was for *enemies* to engage in a peaceful (even friendly) discussion based on their shared love of poetry.
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>> Publishing only one's friends would have defeated the purpose of The Sunday Sampler.
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>> Dance remained in The Sampler through the first two printed annual collections -- after which he made his idiotic accusation and was banned.
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>> You banned George Dance for giving his opinion.
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>> Got it.
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>> This response appears in the discussion at:
>> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=703674682#703674682
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>> George falsely accused me of indulging in preferential treatment in my editorial policies for AYoS.
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>> At the time, AYoS showcased the poetry of *everyone* who submitted a poem to us.  George's accusation was blatantly false.
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>> When you falsely accuse the editor of a magazine regarding his editorial policies, you should know that you're going to be banned.
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>> We definitely know that now.
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>> That's the kind of think most people shouldn't have to be told.
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>> George Dance probably thought he could speak his mind without punishment.
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>> This response appears in the discussion at:
>> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=703674682#703674682
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> He wasn't speaking his mind,



Of course he was.

😏 


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