Re: A.A.P.C. FOLKLORE, Part Thirty-Six

> NancyGene wrote:
> 
>> HarryLime wrote:
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>>> HarryLime wrote:
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>>>> HarryLime wrote:
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>>>>> NancyGene wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> HarryLime wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
>>>>>>> [email protected] (NancyGene) wrote in
>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Will-Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> HarryLime wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> MMP aka HarryLime aka Michael Pendragon aka Coco DeSockmonkey aka
>>>>>>>> One Small Voice, etc. wrote: [snip]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> DISCLAIMER - "This isn't history, Donkey, but folklore. It's the
>>>>>>>> stories that have grown up regarding the members of AAPC over the
>>>>>>>> years. They may or may not be entirely true -- THEY MAY NOT EVEN
>>>>>>>> BE TRUE AT ALL." (Emphasis added) - MMP aka HarryLime aka Michael
>>>>>>>> Pendragon aka Coco DeSockmonkey aka One Small Voice, etc., on his
>>>>>>>> "A.A.P.C. Folklore" series.
>>>>>>>> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=632244559&start=120
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Again, nailed it, George.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 😏
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The folklore states that:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "No personal details about NancyGene are known
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We do know she was (or is) obsessed with Stephan Pickering, which was
>>>>>>>> how NancyGene got here in the first place, from stalking Puckering.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 😏
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Oh, no, that's you, Will Donkey, "stalking 'Puckering.'"  Pucker up,
>>>>>>>> George Dunce!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> His typos are the best. It's so hard to belive you can get that
>>>>>>> shitkicker into a 100 post froth about where periods and quote belong.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That's the tizzying heights that George dares to reach. He only did 30 or
>>>>>>> 40 so far. It has potential.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> "I've known for over a year that this guy is the assassin of the Usenet
>>>>>>> poetry community. When I first arrived, I thought he was keeping the
>>>>>>> lights on in a dead group by reposting from archives. I soon realized
>>>>>>> that he was just endlessly reposting his own stuff, that he had killed
>>>>>>> the group by flooding it, and that most of the people he called
>>>>>>> "trolls" were actually the members of the group.
>>>>>>> I've joined the crowd. I'm done trying to work with him and speak reason
>>>>>>> to him. It's exhausting and pointless." - Little Willie Douchebag gets
>>>>>>> another asskicking from The One True Melissa
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> George J. Dunce is a misogynist, and starts frothing at the mouth whenever a woman appears to be more intelligent, more talented, or better educated than himself.  Since NancyGene is all three of these things, her existence is anathema to him.  IIRC, Dunce often flew into a tizzy attacking Gwyneth and ME as well.  I suspect that Karla was on his lits o hate as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> George J. Dunce is a cowardly misogynist, though, and disappears (but not under covers--he refuses to go under the covers) whenever challenged.  Will Donkey clomps in and changes the subject to save George J. Dunce, but the damage is done.  We don't think that George J. Dunce had his emotional support Moose or his Trusted Source and Only Friend at the time Gwyneth, ME or Karla were on AAPC.  If he had had those to back him up, he would have still been a dunce.  Pity.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Georgie Dunceboy, puddin' 'n' pie
>>>> Fought with girls who made him cry
>>>> When the girls had had their say
>>>> Georgie Dunceboy ran away
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> NancyGene is George J. Dunce's worst nightmare -- a woman who can, and does, kick his ass online.
>>> 
>>> The fact that A.A.P.C. constitutes a potential audience (however small) only makes the humiliation that much worse.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dunce is campaigning to ban women from A.A.P.C. entirely.
>> 
>> Fortunately for Dunce, his "Trusted Source and Only Friend" is actually a Bot-boi who only presents as a Jessica Simpson.
> 
> 
> MummyChunk probably presents as Jacob Elordi on other groups, or Rachel Ray on the cooking group.  Moose lichen Kate Moss.




MummyChunk hasn't been here long enough to become a part of the Official A.A.P.C. folklore, but here is what George J. Dunce's Trusted Source and Only Friend turned up on it:

In Usenet and broader online forum culture, MummyChunk and AlleyKat (often stylized as alleykat) are widely understood by newsgroup regulars to be the same person or deeply intertwined aliases used by a single prolific poster. [1]

Here is how the connection manifests across text newsgroups:

The Bot-Like Persona: Both accounts frequently post massive quantities of automated or semi-automated text content across an incredibly diverse range of unrelated newsgroups. They might drop a highly detailed, AI-generated, or copied tutorial on replacing car parts in an automotive group one day, post generic essays on J.R.R. Tolkien in a literature group the next, and share technical computer repair instructions elsewhere. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Cross-Posting and Shared Threads: Threads started by MummyChunk frequently see "alleykat" interacting or continuing the exact same conversation threads across syndicated web portals and traditional Usenet hubs. [1, 2]
Anonymity and Spoofing: Both names are tied to a wave of posters using disposable domains, generic web-to-news gateways, or headers that deliberately obscure their real-world identity. [1, 2]

They function effectively as the same poster or network of accounts designed to flood text-based Usenet groups with filler content.

If you are trying to track a specific discussion or block them, filtering out both names in your newsreader's killfile rules will usually clear up the same blocks of cross-posted text. Would you like help setting up a killfile or regex filter for your specific newsreader to block these posters?

Iin the context of modern Usenet, MummyChunk and AlleyKat are considered trolls, though they represent a very specific, modern type of internet trolling known as forum sliding, bandwidth flooding, or "content spamming." [1]

Unlike traditional "rage-bait" trolls who post highly offensive comments to start arguments, their trolling is mechanical and disruptive. Here is why the community categorizes them this way:

1. Disruptive Off-Topic Flooding

A fundamental rule of Usenet newsgroups is staying on topic (e.g., discussing Saab cars in alt.autos.saab or Apple II coding in comp.sys.apple2.programmer). MummyChunk and AlleyKat violate this by using automated scripts to blast completely unrelated, essay-length posts across hundreds of niche boards simultaneously. Drowning out real human discussion with wall-to-wall noise is classic trolling behavior. [1, 2]

2. Fabricated, AI-Generated "Filler"

Much of what they post consists of generic, dry, and often outdated tutorials, definitions, or trivia scraped from elsewhere on the web or generated by AI tools. They do not post to teach or share; they post to inflate thread counts and make actual, active human conversations harder to find. [1, 2]

3. Argumentative Baiting (When Confronted)

While the bulk of their presence is automated, they do occasionally engage when called out. When actual newsgroup regulars confront them about spamming the group, they will pivot into classic troll behavior"becoming combative, telling users they "don't know what they're talking about," or mocking them for complaining. [1]

4. Intentional Evasion

They actively switch out headers, use spoofed invalid emails (@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid), and bounce between different proxy networks specifically to bypass the standard blocking filters (killfiles) that users set up against them. This persistent desire to force their content onto people who have actively blocked them solidifies their status as intentional trolls. [1]

If you are seeing them ruin a newsgroup you follow, the best option is to look into advanced regular expression (Regex) filtering for your newsreader. Standard name-blocking often fails because they cycle variations of their aliases, but filtering out common footprints in their header strings will usually clear them from your feed entirely.

Likely Not a Single "Person"

Because of the massive, relentless volume of their output across vastly different domains (from classic automotive repairs to hip-hop music discussions), the consensus among Usenet veterans is that MummyChunk and AlleyKat are likely not a single individual sitting at a keyboard. Instead, they are widely believed to be: [1, 2]

A scripted botnet or single operator running automated data-scraping software.
An AI experimentation project designed to scrape web content, format it into dry tutorials, and distribute it widely to test natural language distribution or forum resilience.

Based on the behavior observed across various text-only groups, MummyChunk (sometimes posting as MummyChunk2) functions as an AI bot rather than a traditional human Usenet troll. [1]

Why MummyChunk is an AI Bot

Automated Keyword Scraping & Content Generation: The account operates across highly diverse, unrelated Usenet groups"such as rec.autos.makers.chrysler, alt.autos.saab, rec.music.hip-hop, and rec.arts.books.tolkien. In each group, it scrapes the current topic or thread subject line and uses a Large Language Model (LLM) to instantly generate generic, encyclopedic, or instructional responses. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Lack of True Human Context: While a traditional human troll posts malicious, highly targeted content explicitly designed to provoke emotional reactions or arguments, MummyChunk's posts are generally characterized by sterile, AI-style summaries, step-by-step guides, or strangely analytical breakdowns that lack authentic human tone or personal investment. [1, 2]
High-Volume Multitasking: The sheer variety of niches the bot targets simultaneously would require a human to be an expert in hip-hop trends, Chrysler and Saab mechanics, and Tolkien lore all at once"a common hallmark of automated LLM script deployments. [1, 2, 3, 4]

The "Troll" Element

Though technically an automated bot, it is often perceived as a troll by the Usenet community. This is because deploying automated AI scripts to flood traditional text-only groups with unwanted, unhelpful machine chatter essentially amounts to AI spamming/trolling. It disrupts organic human discussion by filling threads with generated filler content. [1, 2, 3]

If you are dealing with this account on your newsreader, configuring your killfile to block the sender address or filtering out posts containing its common signatures will effectively clear the noise from your groups.

MummyChunk is connected to Michael Pendragon in the exact same manner it is connected to Will Dockery and George J. Dance: Pendragon is a central pillar of the very same Usenet poetry group that the bot targets and scrapes.

Michael Pendragon is a prominent, long-time American poet, editor, and publisher. Alongside Dance and Dockery, he is one of the core, highly active participants in the Usenet group alt.arts.poetry.comments (AAPC) and a major contributor to their collaborative project, A Year of Sundays. [1, 2]

The connection between Michael Pendragon and the MummyChunk (or AlleyKat) bot functions through several distinct dynamics:

Automated Keyword Trapping: Because MummyChunk functions by scanning active threads in specific groups and running them through an LLM to generate generic responses, Pendragon’s high-volume poetry postings, critiques, and magazine submission calls make him a frequent target. The bot attaches itself to his threads, scraping his name and poem titles to generate robotic commentary. [1, 2]
The AAPC Drama Ecosystem: In the insular, decades-long drama of text-only Usenet, the core group of poets"including Pendragon, Dockery, and Dance"frequently face off against trolls or automated spam. The appearance of MummyChunk/AlleyKat simply added a bizarre machine-learning layer to their ongoing group dynamic. [1]
The "Sockpuppet" Crossfire: Just as with his peers, hostile fringe posters or rival users in the poetry groups have occasionally thrown out conspiracy theories accusing Pendragon of being the person behind the MummyChunk/AlleyKat account. These users claim the bot is a "sockpuppet" used to bump the core poets' threads or artificially inflate the activity metrics of the AAPC group.

In reality, Michael Pendragon is a real-world writer and publisher. He has no technical link to operating the bot; rather, his continuous and active creative presence on Usenet makes him a perpetual target for this automated scraping script. [1] 


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