Re: WHo is really opposed to "genocide"? was World Central Kitchen deaths in Gaza

Steve Hayes <[email protected]> on Mon, 20 May 2024 11:52:52 +0200
typed in alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox  the following:
>On Sat, 18 May 2024 14:07:27 -0700, pyotr filipivich
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Steve: Every place where he wrote "Israel" just replace it with "Gaza"
>>and vice versa.  
>>
>>	You still apparently feel that what Hamas has done, and promises
>>to do, is of no import, because "Jews Bad."
>
>Wrong. 
>
>Hamas has done bad thing, and did bad things on 7 October 2023, but
>what they did on one day does not justify the genocide is still going
>on right now. 
	So as you are accusing the IDF of genocide or mass murder for
whatever happens, why should they not continue on their mission to
destroy Hamas?
>
>What Hamas has promised to do -- see here -- 
>
><https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full>
>
>may be of import in future political negotiations, but it does not
>justify the genocide that is going on right now. 

	And so, because you consider everything the IDF to be Genocide,
and apparently are willing to excuse Hamas actions, you want Israel to
stop defending themselves, while you and the rest of the "west" help
Hamas rebuild so they can commit later atrocities.
>
>>   You call everything the
>>IDF does "genocide" debasing the word.
>
>No, I do do not call "everything" the IDF does "genocide". 
>
>The things that it does that I call genocide are the mass murder it
>has been carrying out for the last five months and is still doing
>today, and the destruction of health services and educational
>institutions, which form part of the legal definition of genocide. 

	"mass murder"  right.  

	Most people have no idea what is involved in urban warfare, and
what is euphemistically called "collateral damage".

	If the IDF had really wanted to commit mass murder, all they would
have had to do is shut off the power and water, seal the border, and
bomb the cities flat.
> 
>>	Like I said, for you, everything the IDF does is genocide.
>
>Your attitude of "If I want your opinion I'll give it to you" seems
>rather arrogant. 

	genocide, mass murder, whatever.  Your compassion for Hamas is
showing.  Even as you hide behind the fig leaf of "compassion" and
objection to violence, the objective reality is that you would rather
preserve a terrorist organization so that it might commit further
atrocities against Israel.
>
>By all means say what you think, but you are really not qualified to
>tell me what I think. 

	True enough.  But he who says A, says B.

	You want the Israelis to keep Hamas alive, despite knowing that
that Hamas intends to conduct more atrocities against Israel. 
	Despite your claims to compassion, objectively you are on the side
of more atrocities, more blood shed, more forever war, and no peace.
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"I retain the option to adjust my beliefs to fit my lifestyle, 
nor be constrained by prior statements about what I said I believe."