Deep Retention Update June 2024, the Backbone Situation
PX <[email protected]> Fri, 21 Jun 2024 23:14:36 GMT
| Newsgroups | alt.comics.classic |
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| Organization | Usenetbucket |
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Since I last posted about retention, things have changed slightly. There are fewer resellers on the Omicron backbone and no block accounts. It is still the best backbone for older material. The Omicron event horizon has moved about just one week ahead from August 8th 2008 to August 16th 2008. There are headers for files on the 14th and 15th but the files themselves are gone. It feels like like Omicron lost the hard drive in their network with the oldest files on it. The next most common backbone, Usenet Express, does not have a fixed date for retention start and it's approximately 2900 days of retention is far from their stated retention of 4000+ days. Those 2900 days are not being increased and older files get deleted every month. Usenet Express also deletes files that don't get downloaded often so it's not a good backbone for searching for old and rare files. The Abavia backbone has varied retention according to provider. The maximum retention on this backbone is around 3600 days but most providers seem to have around 2900 days of actual binary retention. I have 3 different Abavia accounts and all of them index back to July 2014 but none of the older files download. There are some Abavia providers that claim 3400 to 3800 days retention but they are all fairly expensive monthly subscription only providers and I already pay enough for Usenet subscriptions. In any case, Abavia has some advantages other than retention. It carries groups that the other backbones don't and Abavia providers in general allow posting without having to request it, at least on subscription accounts, and there are lots of cheap providers on this backbone. If you shop around, you can get low bandwidth account for around 20 euros per year. The Usenet Farm backbone has about 1000 days retention as does the Netnews backbone that Blocknews and Frugal Usenet are using after being kicked off Omicron. So if you were using Blocknews to get older files, the only option now is a subscription account on an Omicron provider with Newshosting and Eweka being the best and most secure options. I currently have subscriptions to both just because I do a lot of deep indexing and I don't want to mess around provider wise. I have a terabyte or so of Blocknews blocks and they're really only good for posting these days. Blocknews has always been cool with posting and I found I can post to the Abavia only groups with it even though their new backbone doesn't carry them. Weird, but at least my blocks are still good for something. The Abavia only groups are a cool discovery. They're like the phantom groups that only Abavia users can see but invisible to most of the rest of Usenet and not indexed anywhere on the web. I've done some test posting to one, alt.binaries.comics.classic. My newsreader had some old posts indexed on it but I could never post to it before and I thought it was slated for deletion and the servers had locked posting on it. If you've got Abavia, you can see them. So, the backbone and provider situation for getting older files is not as good as it was a few years ago but you can still get all of them with an Omicron provider. Due to all the encrypted and obfuscated posting, the whole Usenet feed is growing exponentially and getting more costly to maintain so I don't know how long the 2008 retention is going to last. One thing in it's favor is that it probably costs a lot less to keep storing the old posts than keep up with the new ones. Groups like alt.binaries.boneless have gigabytes of uploads daily and most of it is obfuscated. Keeping the older material might give Omicron enough of a competitive advantage to make it worthwhile. If they didn't, they'd be just like all the other providers. -- PX=Paradox