Re: choosing a motherboard

John B. Smith <[email protected]>
Newsgroups alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 16:55:01 -0500, VanguardLH <[email protected]> wrote:

><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Windows11 will not tolerate my motherboard because it lacks that chip.
>
>There are 2 ways to supply TPM support: a TPM chip, or BIOS firmware.
>While my mobo has a TPM slot, it also has Intel's PTT (Platform Trust
>Technology) code in its BIOS to emulate the chip.  AMD has their fTPM
>BIOS code.  You may have to go into the BIOS to enable this feature.
>
>I purposely did not fab my host to include a TPM module.  I also went
>into BIOS to deliberately disable Intel PTT.  This ensures I am not
>bothered by Windows Update offering me to upgrade to Windows 11.  Easy
>kill switch.  If I sometime later (probably Windows 12 more likely than
>Windows 11) decide to upgrade from Windows 10, I go into the BIOS to
>re-enable Intel PTT, and allow the upgrade.  If I want to revert, I
>would have to first disable Intel PTT in BIOS, and then restore to the
>image backup before I started all this.

I like your idea about waiting for Win12.
>
>> I suspect this old machine and Win10 will outlive me, so I'm not very
>> serious about shopping for a pre-built machine and I'm kinda scared to
>> attempt a build (mostly because of the old-age frailities I've picked
>> since I built the last one, but also because of the money - I'm
>> finally fully retired now (89) and the inflation is kinda terrifying).
>
>Since you did not identify your mobo (brand and model), no way anyone
>else can check if it has a setting for Intel PTT or AMD fTPM.  Read the
>mobo's manual.  It should mention this option if supported.

Sorry, mb is Abit IP35 Pro XE. cpu is Intel Core 2 Duo E8400. Both
circa 2008. 8gigs of DDR2 ram. Pretty sure I can't massage the BIOS
into acceptance. I'm pretty familiar with it after 15 years.
>
>As Paul mentioned, there may be other requirements than just TPM, like
>which CPUs are supported by Windows 11 as well as RAM minimum.  See:
>
>https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifications
>https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/windows-processor-requirements
>
>Maybe PC Health Check might provide some guidance:
>
>https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/how-to-use-the-pc-health-check-app-9c8abd9b-03ba-4e67-81ef-36f37caa7844
>
>I don't have that app installed on Windows 10 to see what it reports.

No I never d/l'd it either, Maybe I'll take a look. Win10 tells me I'm
not fit for Win11 everytime I do updates.
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