Re: NNTP - how to check for removed newsgroups ?

Andrzej,

> The control.* newsgroups usually keeps only control messages sent to the 
> specific newsserver -

You mean, that subtree is not replicated to all the other newsgroup servers 
?  Any idea why not ?

> either by the newsadmin or by approved users of that server (f.e. cancel 
> messages).

Although I took the latter part for granted, I mentioned something in 
relation to the former (dashboard). And as that has not been adressed ...

> E-S in general has 8 year retention.
>
> If you want to know more details,

No.  If its supposed to have a specific behaviour its likely in an RFC 
somewhere.  If its not than the info would not be worth anything in regard 
to any other newsgroup server.

Ah yes : last mentioning (that I have) in RFC 5537, chapter 5.2 - Group 
Control Messages.

And that also answers my above "any idea why not?" question, as it looks 
like that they are indeed replicated to other servers too.  Which makes 
sense.

And as it doesn't seem to mandate that all newsgroup deletions /must/ be 
going thru the "rmgroup" newsgroup ...   I still cannot use it to (fully) 
clean-up my local newsgroup list.

> If you want to talk about newsgroups subscribed in your newsreader, you 
> should rather use term "offline".

:-)  Offline ?  Couldn't there be a more meaningless name for it ?

I referred to those lists as "local" and "server" from a users perspective 
(which is what I am and the POV I wrote my message from).  But if someone 
wants to refer to them regardless of perspective than I suggest naming them 
"server" and "client" (newsgroup) lists.  No ambiguity, no matter which POV 
is taken.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser