Re: Sliderrrrrrr...

On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 11:56:48 +0100, He Who Sees All  
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 13:48:06 +0100, slider <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 07:08:08 +0100, He Who Sees All
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Smiley Brian
>>>
>>> Are you still ok?  Life all it's made out to be?  What's happening in
>>> your corner of the woods?
>>
>> ### - (laughing) are you taking the piss or what? coz you know how i am:
>> if am still alive am the same as before albeit a little older and a  
>> little
>> wiser around the edges :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I believe your hated Tories are going to be tossed out like scraps of
>>> food behind a halal butcher?  Yes?  Do you vote?  Is it compulsory in
>>> your neck of the woods?
>>
>> ### - no voting on my part, there being no point to an already foregone
>> conclusion, it being perfectly clear (at least to me at any rate) that
>> said tories - an old irish terms for 'thief' - are bowing-out so labour
>> will be blamed for the sheer mess of everything the tories have created,
>> the same thing they do every time and always manage to get away with...
>
> So, voting not compulsory there...

### - not yet at any rate :)





>>> Here, all is good.  Well, not really, but it certainly beats the
>>> alternative :)
>>
>> ### - things don't change in wallyworld thang and you surely know that  
>> by
>> now; prisons are run in a very certain manner & way that's been  
>> perfected
>> over the centuries until everyone & everything is totally locked down  
>> and
>> accounted for, there being more cctv cameras here per person than  
>> anywhere
>> else on the planet, a new system they're trialling whereby, eventually,
>> inmates can be seen and followed on-camera from the very moment they  
>> leave
>> their homes to wherever they go and whomever they meet right up until  
>> they
>> return home again, AI used to pick out any unusual behaviour patterns  
>> that
>> deviate from their known norms and flagging it up to human operators  
>> when
>> required (think of the movie 'Demolition Man' where he wakes up in the
>> future and is, for example, auto-fined every time he cusses or whatever,
>> coz that's the way it's all going)
>
>
> Agree with all that  If that type of bullshit was implemented here
> there would be riots.  Much worse in China though old soap.  Much
> worse, and you know it...

### - as far as i know (coz things change daily sometimes) the uk has more  
cameras per it's population than anywhere else, and is/was the first to  
have them to such an extent, ya can't even spit over here mate without  
being on some camera haha ;)



>>> Wonder if that fella in the US, Chris, is still kickin'?  Ya reckon?
>>> He showed noticeable decline iin his grasp of English prose, missing
>>> capitalisations, grammatical errors, lack of punctuation, all the
>>> things which accompany, nay, characterise, declining cognitive
>>> abilities.  I think he was in his mid-70's which is probably
>>> approaching the US average male lifespan (one of the few in the world
>>> which is also in decline).  Maybe too much junk food?
>>
>> ### - as far as i know he's as-fine now as he's always been, people grow
>> but they don't change until they die, and sometimes even then they still
>> don't change heh ;)
>
> Nope.  Go back on your usenet client and have a look at his messages a
> decade ago, let alone two decades.  He was almost eloquent then,
> certainly far more loquatious.  Before he left here, his commentary
> was completely degraded relatively.  Decline is evident.

### - that isn't the way have personally seen it, from my pov i saw him  
advance & grow over 20 years as the poet in him slowly emerged, his longer  
sentences thus shortening over time to almost zen-like condensed quips,  
his meanings, however, remaining perfectly clear, if not more so heh...

in that sense i think he did quite well, that his time here wasn't wasted  
+ am sure he learned tons about life, the universe & everything, just as  
he's been searching for it all along in one form or another, the outer  
forms may (and do) change, but the inner man just continues growing &  
expanding and becoming altogether more encompassing and worldly, and imho  
(and observation) he did exactly that, and he did it well ;)




>>> Jeremy (Dave Worrell) might still be around.  He was a scrawny old
>>> coot, all skin bone tendon ligament and constipated expression
>>> probably wrought by all those scams he fell for, such as Castenada et
>>> al.
>>
>> ### - haven't heard anything about (or from) him since both he & chris
>> returned recently to say goodbye forever...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Ukraine war of aggression by Russia still puttering along.  Ridiculous
>>> to think the Russians think they have a hope in hell of winning
>>> anything there apart from some useless marginal land and probably in
>>> the longer term, not even that.  Jews still killing bucketloads of
>>> kids and so on in Gaza, sooner or later the other arab states gonna do
>>> something but they seem rather cowardly to me, all piss, vinegar and
>>> wind.
>>
>> ### - pfffft... the russians already have everything they wanted/needed
>> from ukraine and the west, having annexed those southern regions and  
>> made
>> them part of russia no one can ever attack those (mostly)  
>> russian-speaking
>> people again without also directly attacking russia, 14,000 of them  
>> having
>> being killed before russia stepped in to help them... the UN didn't help
>> them, no one else sent food and aid to help them, several million people
>> were being ethnically cleansed and only russia gave a damn about them,
>> just like what's happening in gaza right now... all these things being  
>> the
>> direct result of western policy and intent in a not so cold anymore war
>> against the last hold-outs to western global domination: russia, china &
>> islam... one only having to glance at the board to see just how the game
>> is progressing, and it ain't going too well for the west...
>
> What complete indoctrinated bullshit.  Fake news yeah?  Lol...
> But then again, with you poms, your types didn't like Ireland being
> separate even though they are closer genetically to the northern
> germanic peoples than English (sassenach) stock.
>
> Russia has invaded a sovereign country.  It has bluffed with nuclear
> war threats.  It has failed in both its invasion and its bluff.  It is
> now being hammered with excellent superior western weapons such as
> ATACMS.  Putin, the scummy cunt, thought he would be in Kiev in 4
> days.  We're now in year three!  It's going very well indeed for the
> west, horrible for the Russian scumbags.
>
> Stop making false narratives to suit your fantasy world construct,
> "wallyworld".  You have a state pension, live in subsidised housing,
> enjoy NHS, roads for your mini minor, police protection and the rights
> of being a citizen of the Commonwealth.  None of this is available for
> the poor bastards living in Russia, unless you are one of the elite
> kleptocracy.  On the other hand, if you are so ungrateful for Western
> liberalism and democracy, go the fuck to Russia and try that out for a
> while.  You might like it...not :)

### - well there doesn't appear to be too much wrong with you then haha,  
just press that particular button of his and it erupts like old faithful  
every time? (whoooosh! lol :)))

look mate, i've been singin' exactly the same tune all along about it  
right from the very start of it all and even from before, and i haven't  
altered my pov + nada's happened to alter it either... i remember every  
detail of it and all the things that were said by all the parties  
concerned, the history of it all, not because i have a fixed pov but  
because that's my continuing assessment of the whole situation from before  
it even started + haven't allowed myself to become brainwashed by the  
incessant black propaganda either...

you, however, were 'already' brainwashed and biased, hated russians (and a  
dozen other races lol) with a passion for very personal, right-wing-type  
nationalist bs reasons of your own, your anger and rotten temper suiting  
you perfectly to adopting such nasty/hateful beliefs...




>>> So, speak soon yeah?
>>
>> ### - so you're in a chatty mood today eh? (he must have been smoking  
>> some
>> of the good stuff then haha)
>>
>> but that's very unusual for you, so are you ok mate? normally you just
>> attack everything that moves (such as the way you greeted that newbie  
>> the
>> other day lol, like a crazed pitbull)
>
> That fag was a prick, trolling in case you didn't notice.  Picking on
> us wealthy boomers, telling you and me to hurry up and die.  I could
> say I defended myself against the little whippersnapper cunt, and you
> showed a gutless, pitiable rollover and surrender style, with no
> dignity or balls.  Why can't you see reality, see when someone is
> taking the piss, someone is asking you to hurry up and die?  What the
> fuck is the matter with you??

### - lol we didn't even get a chance to check him out before you'd thrown  
him out already, and in the worst possible way? (really laffing hahaha)

so what if he was trolling, everyone does it to try and get 'some' kinda  
reaction, you even admit doing it yourself farther down?

 from my pov, however, there was quite a lot of humour in his words, and  
even a wink or 2?

i, however, picked-up on the death/dying side of his remarks, and enlarged  
it heh, thus making it into an invitation to come back at me about it in  
some, perhaps even more revealing about him, way, got it?

i mean, ya can't seriously take any notice of the masks people wear? there  
may indeed be some clues to their inner person depending on their choice  
of mask, but it's not about the mask, right?

iow: old slider, ignoring his act, surreptitiously/indirectly invited the  
newbie to further conversation (a rather emotive one yes, one ultimately  
involving life, the universe & everything depending on just how far he's  
prepared to run with it, and this on myu part quite deliberately so)

you, otoh lol, just threw the fucker out before he'd even taken off his  
hat ffs, and now we'll prolly never know who he was or what he was really  
about, you didn't bother to find out...

i mean, what kinda really fucked up way is THAT to answer the door bell  
for cryin' out loud?? (really laughing)

maybe next time then you'll wait... and dig around a little in their head  
first before giving them their marching orders? and if it turns out to be  
a creep or whatever then we could have still had a little fun with it,  
maybe even help it some if it was someone in pain, who knows! but we'll  
never know about him now huh coz you blew it ;)





>> or maybe you're just gettin' old and more mellow in your dotage eh?  
>> (yeah
>> riiight...)
>
> Nope.  Getting pretty angry at all the stupidity I see and encounter
> and less tolerant the older I get.  So much stupidity, so little
> common sense.  No one stands up to the bullshit we are surrounded
> with.  But I do.

### - yeah, i know you do... but where does it ever really get you, right?  
it's not a working solution i mean...

that in that sense you're only really beating yourself up every time you  
allow it all to get to you

what am saying, is that there's ways to handle these things, call them  
workarounds then, the truth being that no one escapes having to deal with  
all that too, some just better than others, many worse, the main thing  
being to find a way to deal with it before ya just blow a gasket of  
summat, ya know?

e.g., whenever we talk about ukraine/russia you get very angry and that  
anger completely clouds your judgment to the point you wont even try to  
look at it other than in an infuriated way, there's no reasoning with you!  
you've ceased to reason at that point and then all this bile comes out of  
you directed at anything & anyone who says anything to the contrary - an  
almost perfect dictator type ;)

and if you can't hold all that bile back for 5 minutes sometimes, just to  
look at things, then there's really no hope for you and you're gonna be  
just stuck there forever not even trying to get out!

ain't saying all this just to be mean btw, i'm not mean, and i don't have  
an axe to grind either even though the way we see/view the world is quite  
similar... it IS a stupid shithole full of total arseholes and morons -  
hello our fellow man lol - and yes they ain't up to much either! they've  
got a 'few' brains scattered among them out there but they're very few and  
far between, the rest don't know their arms from their arsehole and are  
actually like little delinquent kids running around just trying to fend  
for themselves, no parents, teachers, nada, certainly not enough anyway!

and coz it could all be sooo much better, ya know?

but currently it just isn't, and even teeters on the brink of destructions  
sometimes, the whole thing is actually rather tenuous and shaky , one slip  
and they'll lose the lot, and they've already come close to it a few times!

a betting man would prolly give very low odds on them surviving, even  
despite all their hopes & dreams about exploring the stars they're prolly  
just too stupid to survive and have only been lucky so far!




>> so c'mon, out with it sport, what's happened? you can't fool old slider  
>> ya
>> know, he notices little changes in things (and thangs), so what's really
>> on your mind?
>
> Well, to be completly frank, I was hoping to elicit some response from
> those two clowns Chris and Dave.  The two who, when it came time to
> pay for usenet, or find a free text only provider like Eternal
> September, couldn't quite figure it out or find a dime or cent or peso
> to pay for it.
>
> you're always stopping in for a chat like me, so it wasn't really
> aimed at you...

### - i knew/realised that... i actually know you quite well by now ;)

but only because i went to all the trouble of finding out, see? of probing  
you, of arguing with you to see how you react to certain subjects & things  
etc, the same kinda thing i suggested above when answering the front door,  
to first invite them IN and only THEN start bashing them once they've  
taken a seat haha! their conversation not really mattering so much as how  
they behave and conduct themselves while talking/debating... and i take  
notes ;)

when you're dealing with sassy human beings ya have to be a bit crafty  
see? and because if you wait long enough and keep interacting you'll get  
peeks into and beneath their surface act, get it?

that in order to do so effectively one perforce also has to put-on an act,  
albeit in our case we 'know' it's only an act hehe, thus the advantage,  
it's easy really, you just have to hold yourself and your own feelings  
back a little and be intelligent about it, it's not rocket science ;)