Re: Sliderrrrrrr...

On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 18:02:20 +0100, slider <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 11:56:48 +0100, He Who Sees All  
><[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 13:48:06 +0100, slider <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>>> On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 07:08:08 +0100, He Who Sees All
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Smiley Brian
>>>>
>>>> Are you still ok?  Life all it's made out to be?  What's happening in
>>>> your corner of the woods?
>>>
>>> ### - (laughing) are you taking the piss or what? coz you know how i am:
>>> if am still alive am the same as before albeit a little older and a  
>>> little
>>> wiser around the edges :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I believe your hated Tories are going to be tossed out like scraps of
>>>> food behind a halal butcher?  Yes?  Do you vote?  Is it compulsory in
>>>> your neck of the woods?
>>>
>>> ### - no voting on my part, there being no point to an already foregone
>>> conclusion, it being perfectly clear (at least to me at any rate) that
>>> said tories - an old irish terms for 'thief' - are bowing-out so labour
>>> will be blamed for the sheer mess of everything the tories have created,
>>> the same thing they do every time and always manage to get away with...
>>
>> So, voting not compulsory there...
>
>### - not yet at any rate :)

1+ for the UK...
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>>>> Here, all is good.  Well, not really, but it certainly beats the
>>>> alternative :)
>>>
>>> ### - things don't change in wallyworld thang and you surely know that  
>>> by
>>> now; prisons are run in a very certain manner & way that's been  
>>> perfected
>>> over the centuries until everyone & everything is totally locked down  
>>> and
>>> accounted for, there being more cctv cameras here per person than  
>>> anywhere
>>> else on the planet, a new system they're trialling whereby, eventually,
>>> inmates can be seen and followed on-camera from the very moment they  
>>> leave
>>> their homes to wherever they go and whomever they meet right up until  
>>> they
>>> return home again, AI used to pick out any unusual behaviour patterns  
>>> that
>>> deviate from their known norms and flagging it up to human operators  
>>> when
>>> required (think of the movie 'Demolition Man' where he wakes up in the
>>> future and is, for example, auto-fined every time he cusses or whatever,
>>> coz that's the way it's all going)
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>>
>> Agree with all that  If that type of bullshit was implemented here
>> there would be riots.  Much worse in China though old soap.  Much
>> worse, and you know it...
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>### - as far as i know (coz things change daily sometimes) the uk has more  
>cameras per it's population than anywhere else, and is/was the first to  
>have them to such an extent, ya can't even spit over here mate without  
>being on some camera haha ;)

https://geographical.co.uk/science-environment/whos-watching-the-cities-with-the-most-cctv-cameras#:~:text=By%20the%20end%20of%202021,them%20are%20located%20in%20China.

"by the end of 2021, an estimated one billion surveillance cameras
were in operation globally; 54 per cent of them are located in China.
Chinese cities are under the heaviest CCTV surveillance in the world"
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>>>> Wonder if that fella in the US, Chris, is still kickin'?  Ya reckon?
>>>> He showed noticeable decline iin his grasp of English prose, missing
>>>> capitalisations, grammatical errors, lack of punctuation, all the
>>>> things which accompany, nay, characterise, declining cognitive
>>>> abilities.  I think he was in his mid-70's which is probably
>>>> approaching the US average male lifespan (one of the few in the world
>>>> which is also in decline).  Maybe too much junk food?
>>>
>>> ### - as far as i know he's as-fine now as he's always been, people grow
>>> but they don't change until they die, and sometimes even then they still
>>> don't change heh ;)
>>
>> Nope.  Go back on your usenet client and have a look at his messages a
>> decade ago, let alone two decades.  He was almost eloquent then,
>> certainly far more loquatious.  Before he left here, his commentary
>> was completely degraded relatively.  Decline is evident.
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>### - that isn't the way have personally seen it, from my pov i saw him  
>advance & grow over 20 years as the poet in him slowly emerged, his longer  
>sentences thus shortening over time to almost zen-like condensed quips,  
>his meanings, however, remaining perfectly clear, if not more so heh...
>
>in that sense i think he did quite well, that his time here wasn't wasted  
>+ am sure he learned tons about life, the universe & everything, just as  
>he's been searching for it all along in one form or another, the outer  
>forms may (and do) change, but the inner man just continues growing &  
>expanding and becoming altogether more encompassing and worldly, and imho  
>(and observation) he did exactly that, and he did it well ;)

Bullshit!  At one stage, he was on the grog to such an extent he was
having a go at Dave's relationship with his wife, that's a fkn no no.
I do believe he has had a go at you as well in relatively recent
times.  No so much with me...:)

Learned tons about life the universe and everything?  Are you fucking
mad Brian?  WTF.  He's bitter & twisted over being conned by the
Mexican/Hispanic grifter and will take that to the grave with him.
Same as Dave.  Such anger...

And not exactly zen-like mate, more like frontal lobe damage due to
alcohol, poor nutrition and age.

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>>>> Jeremy (Dave Worrell) might still be around.  He was a scrawny old
>>>> coot, all skin bone tendon ligament and constipated expression
>>>> probably wrought by all those scams he fell for, such as Castenada et
>>>> al.
>>>
>>> ### - haven't heard anything about (or from) him since both he & chris
>>> returned recently to say goodbye forever...
>>>
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>>>
>>>> Ukraine war of aggression by Russia still puttering along.  Ridiculous
>>>> to think the Russians think they have a hope in hell of winning
>>>> anything there apart from some useless marginal land and probably in
>>>> the longer term, not even that.  Jews still killing bucketloads of
>>>> kids and so on in Gaza, sooner or later the other arab states gonna do
>>>> something but they seem rather cowardly to me, all piss, vinegar and
>>>> wind.
>>>
>>> ### - pfffft... the russians already have everything they wanted/needed
>>> from ukraine and the west, having annexed those southern regions and  
>>> made
>>> them part of russia no one can ever attack those (mostly)  
>>> russian-speaking
>>> people again without also directly attacking russia, 14,000 of them  
>>> having
>>> being killed before russia stepped in to help them... the UN didn't help
>>> them, no one else sent food and aid to help them, several million people
>>> were being ethnically cleansed and only russia gave a damn about them,
>>> just like what's happening in gaza right now... all these things being  
>>> the
>>> direct result of western policy and intent in a not so cold anymore war
>>> against the last hold-outs to western global domination: russia, china &
>>> islam... one only having to glance at the board to see just how the game
>>> is progressing, and it ain't going too well for the west...
>>
>> What complete indoctrinated bullshit.  Fake news yeah?  Lol...
>> But then again, with you poms, your types didn't like Ireland being
>> separate even though they are closer genetically to the northern
>> germanic peoples than English (sassenach) stock.
>>
>> Russia has invaded a sovereign country.  It has bluffed with nuclear
>> war threats.  It has failed in both its invasion and its bluff.  It is
>> now being hammered with excellent superior western weapons such as
>> ATACMS.  Putin, the scummy cunt, thought he would be in Kiev in 4
>> days.  We're now in year three!  It's going very well indeed for the
>> west, horrible for the Russian scumbags.
>>
>> Stop making false narratives to suit your fantasy world construct,
>> "wallyworld".  You have a state pension, live in subsidised housing,
>> enjoy NHS, roads for your mini minor, police protection and the rights
>> of being a citizen of the Commonwealth.  None of this is available for
>> the poor bastards living in Russia, unless you are one of the elite
>> kleptocracy.  On the other hand, if you are so ungrateful for Western
>> liberalism and democracy, go the fuck to Russia and try that out for a
>> while.  You might like it...not :)
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>### - well there doesn't appear to be too much wrong with you then haha,  
>just press that particular button of his and it erupts like old faithful  
>every time? (whoooosh! lol :)))

Ad hominem.  Respond to the matters at hand pls
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>look mate, i've been singin' exactly the same tune all along about it  
>right from the very start of it all and even from before, and i haven't  
>altered my pov + nada's happened to alter it either... i remember every  
>detail of it and all the things that were said by all the parties  
>concerned, the history of it all, not because i have a fixed pov but  
>because that's my continuing assessment of the whole situation from before  
>it even started + haven't allowed myself to become brainwashed by the  
>incessant black propaganda either...

So, respond to the matters at hand instead of waffling on and on and
on...

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>you, however, were 'already' brainwashed and biased, hated russians (and a  
>dozen other races lol) with a passion for very personal, right-wing-type  
>nationalist bs reasons of your own, your anger and rotten temper suiting  
>you perfectly to adopting such nasty/hateful beliefs...

Ad hominem again.  Let me make it easy for you:

1.  Did Russia invade Ukraine in 2022, yes or no?
2.  Did Ukraine invade Russia at any stage since WW2? Yes or no?
3.  Was Crimea, Lukhansk and Donetsk part of Ukraine before 2014?  Yes
or no?
4.  Did Russia invade Crimea, Lukhansk and Donetsk in 2014?  Yes or
no?
5.  Is Russia firing missiles at cities such as Kiev, Kharkiv and
other major conurbations in Ukraine and targeting energy
infrastructure?  Yes or no?
6.  Has Russia threatened the use of nuclear weapons since March 2022?
Yes or no?
6.  Has any other country involved in Russia's aggression and
Ukraine's efforts to defend itself threatened the use of nuclear
weapons?  Yes or no?

Slider, let's see you drop the ad hominem attacks and cut the waffle
and simply respond to the above short questions.  They're not tricky. 
Let's see if you have the courage of your "convictions"...
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>>>> So, speak soon yeah?
>>>
>>> ### - so you're in a chatty mood today eh? (he must have been smoking  
>>> some
>>> of the good stuff then haha)
>>>
>>> but that's very unusual for you, so are you ok mate? normally you just
>>> attack everything that moves (such as the way you greeted that newbie  
>>> the
>>> other day lol, like a crazed pitbull)
>>
>> That fag was a prick, trolling in case you didn't notice.  Picking on
>> us wealthy boomers, telling you and me to hurry up and die.  I could
>> say I defended myself against the little whippersnapper cunt, and you
>> showed a gutless, pitiable rollover and surrender style, with no
>> dignity or balls.  Why can't you see reality, see when someone is
>> taking the piss, someone is asking you to hurry up and die?  What the
>> fuck is the matter with you??
>
>### - lol we didn't even get a chance to check him out before you'd thrown  
>him out already, and in the worst possible way? (really laffing hahaha)
>
>so what if he was trolling, everyone does it to try and get 'some' kinda  
>reaction, you even admit doing it yourself farther down?

Telling you to basically roll over and die?  And me?  There is a
difference in assets, net worth, etc etc, I guess, but putting that
aside, the little basement dwelling prick was rather cheeky, don't you
think?

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> from my pov, however, there was quite a lot of humour in his words, and  
>even a wink or 2?

Fuck off Brian.  You've lost touch with reality mate

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>i, however, picked-up on the death/dying side of his remarks, and enlarged  
>it heh, thus making it into an invitation to come back at me about it in  
>some, perhaps even more revealing about him, way, got it?

Good lord...

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>i mean, ya can't seriously take any notice of the masks people wear? there  
>may indeed be some clues to their inner person depending on their choice  
>of mask, but it's not about the mask, right?
>
>iow: old slider, ignoring his act, surreptitiously/indirectly invited the  
>newbie to further conversation (a rather emotive one yes, one ultimately  
>involving life, the universe & everything depending on just how far he's  
>prepared to run with it, and this on myu part quite deliberately so)
>
>you, otoh lol, just threw the fucker out before he'd even taken off his  
>hat ffs, and now we'll prolly never know who he was or what he was really  
>about, you didn't bother to find out...

Lol, I'd like him to say that to me in real life.  That would be funny
for me, not so funny for him 

>
>i mean, what kinda really fucked up way is THAT to answer the door bell  
>for cryin' out loud?? (really laughing)

Really laughing?  I've heard your soft, whispery voice on a youtube
video a year or so ago, can't imagine laughter coming out of that,
especially "really laughing" lol

It sounds like the voice of a panty sniffer haha (just joking old
soap)...

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>maybe next time then you'll wait... and dig around a little in their head  
>first before giving them their marching orders? and if it turns out to be  
>a creep or whatever then we could have still had a little fun with it,  
>maybe even help it some if it was someone in pain, who knows! but we'll  
>never know about him now huh coz you blew it ;)


That's like someone getting punched in the head and being asked to
wait around for the next punch in the head to see if you can have some
fun with it all.  Have you ever really properly lived, Brian?
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>>> or maybe you're just gettin' old and more mellow in your dotage eh?  
>>> (yeah
>>> riiight...)

No dotage here mate.  Just a strong old bastard still doing his
weights squats etc, and got a dog now too, a pit bull lol

>>
>> Nope.  Getting pretty angry at all the stupidity I see and encounter
>> and less tolerant the older I get.  So much stupidity, so little
>> common sense.  No one stands up to the bullshit we are surrounded
>> with.  But I do.
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>### - yeah, i know you do... but where does it ever really get you, right?  
>it's not a working solution i mean...

It sure is.  I'm very good on the technical side and with the english
language, eloquent when necessary, motivational at the poorest of
times.  A shining light which others are compelled to follow, at least
when I write.

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>that in that sense you're only really beating yourself up every time you  
>allow it all to get to you

Nothing gets to me.  I deal with whatever needs to be dealt with,
rationally and optimally.  

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>what am saying, is that there's ways to handle these things, call them  
>workarounds then, the truth being that no one escapes having to deal with  
>all that too, some just better than others, many worse, the main thing  
>being to find a way to deal with it before ya just blow a gasket of  
>summat, ya know?

We call it a foofer valve in Australia, not a gasket.  That's why the
written medium is preferable to all others (demagogues excepted) - it
permits composure of thoughts in the most advantageous way without
interruption by emotional chaff.

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>e.g., whenever we talk about ukraine/russia you get very angry and that  
>anger completely clouds your judgment to the point you wont even try to  
>look at it other than in an infuriated way, there's no reasoning with you!  
>you've ceased to reason at that point and then all this bile comes out of  
>you directed at anything & anyone who says anything to the contrary - an  
>almost perfect dictator type ;)

I don't get angry. Ukraine is winning and Russia has already lost.
Criminal indictments on Putin, Gerasimov and Shogoi.  All core tech
cut off.  Weapons aging fast.  Europe solidifying behind Ukraine.  etc
etc.  It's you my friend who is the passive aggressive one, swallowing
your anger where it putrifies within, becoming gangrenous...

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>and if you can't hold all that bile back for 5 minutes sometimes, just to  
>look at things, then there's really no hope for you and you're gonna be  
>just stuck there forever not even trying to get out!

Well just answer the questions above mate.  That's all I'm asking you
to do.  Cut the waffle, I don't have time for useless words, verbiage,
nonsense - get to the core, mate, the core.  Throw facts. Argue.
Answer my questions.

Betcha ya don't 'cos that will be a loss of face.

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>ain't saying all this just to be mean btw, i'm not mean, and i don't have  
>an axe to grind either even though the way we see/view the world is quite  
>similar... it IS a stupid shithole full of total arseholes and morons -  
>hello our fellow man lol - and yes they ain't up to much either! they've  
>got a 'few' brains scattered among them out there but they're very few and  
>far between, the rest don't know their arms from their arsehole and are  
>actually like little delinquent kids running around just trying to fend  
>for themselves, no parents, teachers, nada, certainly not enough anyway!

You're not mean, you're bitter and probably very very jealous.  And
quite passive aggressive.

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>and coz it could all be sooo much better, ya know?
>
>but currently it just isn't, and even teeters on the brink of destructions  
>sometimes, the whole thing is actually rather tenuous and shaky , one slip  
>and they'll lose the lot, and they've already come close to it a few times!
>
>a betting man would prolly give very low odds on them surviving, even  
>despite all their hopes & dreams about exploring the stars they're prolly  
>just too stupid to survive and have only been lucky so far!
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>>> so c'mon, out with it sport, what's happened? you can't fool old slider  
>>> ya
>>> know, he notices little changes in things (and thangs), so what's really
>>> on your mind?
>>
>> Well, to be completly frank, I was hoping to elicit some response from
>> those two clowns Chris and Dave.  The two who, when it came time to
>> pay for usenet, or find a free text only provider like Eternal
>> September, couldn't quite figure it out or find a dime or cent or peso
>> to pay for it.
>>
>> you're always stopping in for a chat like me, so it wasn't really
>> aimed at you...
>
>### - i knew/realised that... i actually know you quite well by now ;)
>
>but only because i went to all the trouble of finding out, see? of probing  
>you, of arguing with you to see how you react to certain subjects & things  
>etc, the same kinda thing i suggested above when answering the front door,  
>to first invite them IN and only THEN start bashing them once they've  
>taken a seat haha! their conversation not really mattering so much as how  
>they behave and conduct themselves while talking/debating... and i take  
>notes ;)

But they talk such shit, how can I resist?

And both of them were grown men when they were conned by the Mexican
grifter.  Shame on them.

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>when you're dealing with sassy human beings ya have to be a bit crafty  
>see? and because if you wait long enough and keep interacting you'll get  
>peeks into and beneath their surface act, get it?

Says the man who lives alone, doesn't care about his daughter even
though she's in the same city, has no physical relationships
whatsoever, just on line stuff...is that how you deal with human
beings?

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>that in order to do so effectively one perforce also has to put-on an act,  
>albeit in our case we 'know' it's only an act hehe, thus the advantage,  
>it's easy really, you just have to hold yourself and your own feelings  
>back a little and be intelligent about it, it's not rocket science ;)

Well your act is pretty thin mate.  IQ of 160+, illegitemate son of an
Irish celebrity, half brother of an American actor, etc etc.  Talk
about loss of contact with reality.

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