Re: Betrayel

On Wed, 07 Aug 2024 21:53:44 +0100, David Dalton <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Aug 7, 2024, slider wrote
> (in article <op.2r5imgxw7eafsp@slider>):
>
>> On Wed, 07 Aug 2024 12:18:05 +0100, liaM<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>
>> > On 8/7/2024 4:08 AM, slider wrote:
>> > > On Tue, 06 Aug 2024 21:07:55 +0100, kami<[email protected]>  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 23:17:18 +0200, Venus as a Boy wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > https://slowspacetemplehealing.help/2024/08/02/betrayel/
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The christian church, not Christ, go hand in hand with  
>> psychiatry,
>> > > > > they
>> > > > > say only maybe a few hundred or thousand can be healers, have  
>> christ
>> > > > > consciousnes if any one, or be seers etc., but according to  
>> indigenous
>> > > > > people "mental sick" persons could be chosen to heal (see  
>> homepage)
>> > > > > etc...
>> > > > > According to Phil Borges information that about 20 % of the  
>> population
>> > > > > at least in the west are diagnosed with "mentall illness" you  
>> can
>> > > > > calculate that about 1.6 billion people probably worldwide  
>> could be
>> > > > > considered healers or seers or anything spiritual help for
>> > > > > humanity....
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > that is just delusional thinking, romanticising defects as doped  
>> alloy.
>> > > ### - not really, in india for example mentally ill/challenged  
>> people
>> > > are
>> > > considered to have been blessed by the spirit, and are revered...
>> >
>> >
>> > As in many tribal cultures, people are not thrown to the street or to
>> > Gaza when they happen not to belong to the dominant sects.
>>
>> ### - there have been enough cases of that though: the inuits used to  
>> put
>> granny out on the ice when her teeth wore down; no longer of any  
>> practical
>> use and a drain on precious resources they simply threw her away? (which
>> all seems a bit callous to me lol)
>>
>> so no, not only in cases where society took pity on others for whatever
>> reason and tried to look after them (although undoubtedly there was some
>> of that too, particularly in families unlike the inuit) but because it
>> was/became generally recognised that spiritually advanced people often
>> behaved in unusual, sometimes seemingly totally crazy ways! the average
>> man in the street being unable to discern genuine madness from those
>> spiritually advanced, it became normal to consider that that might be  
>> the
>> case and so rather than shunning them like they do today, they honoured  
>> &
>> revered them instead...
>
> "Seven years your right, under a flagstone, in a quagmire,
> Without food, without taste, but the thirst you ever torturing,
> The law of the judges your lesson, and prayer your language:
> And if you like to return You will be, for a time, a Druid, perhaps.”
> (Ancient Irish Poem)
>
> (but of course I have had 4X7 so far)

### - that's actually very nice... but there are modern equivalents too...

e.g., "genius is often touched with madness", or "there's no such thing as  
genius that isn't touched by madness"

or an even better one said by mick jagger in the film 'Performance'

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_idn3bWXMl0

"i'll tell you this: the only performance that makes it, that really makes  
it, that makes it all the way, is the one that achieves madness, right? am  
i right? you with me?"

a truly great movie ;)