Re: Betrayel

On Aug 7, 2024, slider wrote
(in article <op.2r5jmbq17eafsp@slider>):

> On Wed, 07 Aug 2024 21:53:44 +0100, David Dalton<[email protected]>  wrote:
>
> > On Aug 7, 2024, slider wrote
> > (in article <op.2r5imgxw7eafsp@slider>):
> >
> > > On Wed, 07 Aug 2024 12:18:05 +0100, liaM<[email protected]>  wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 8/7/2024 4:08 AM, slider wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 06 Aug 2024 21:07:55 +0100, kami<[email protected]>  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 23:17:18 +0200, Venus as a Boy wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://slowspacetemplehealing.help/2024/08/02/betrayel/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The christian church, not Christ, go hand in hand with
> > > psychiatry,
> > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > say only maybe a few hundred or thousand can be healers, have
> > > christ
> > > > > > > consciousnes if any one, or be seers etc., but according to
> > > indigenous
> > > > > > > people "mental sick" persons could be chosen to heal (see
> > > homepage)
> > > > > > > etc...
> > > > > > > According to Phil Borges information that about 20 % of the
> > > population
> > > > > > > at least in the west are diagnosed with "mentall illness" you
> > > can
> > > > > > > calculate that about 1.6 billion people probably worldwide
> > > could be
> > > > > > > considered healers or seers or anything spiritual help for
> > > > > > > humanity....
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > that is just delusional thinking, romanticising defects as doped
> > > alloy.
> > > > > ### - not really, in india for example mentally ill/challenged
> > > people
> > > > > are
> > > > > considered to have been blessed by the spirit, and are revered...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As in many tribal cultures, people are not thrown to the street or to
> > > > Gaza when they happen not to belong to the dominant sects.
> > >
> > > ### - there have been enough cases of that though: the inuits used to
> > > put
> > > granny out on the ice when her teeth wore down; no longer of any
> > > practical
> > > use and a drain on precious resources they simply threw her away? (which
> > > all seems a bit callous to me lol)
> > >
> > > so no, not only in cases where society took pity on others for whatever
> > > reason and tried to look after them (although undoubtedly there was some
> > > of that too, particularly in families unlike the inuit) but because it
> > > was/became generally recognised that spiritually advanced people often
> > > behaved in unusual, sometimes seemingly totally crazy ways! the average
> > > man in the street being unable to discern genuine madness from those
> > > spiritually advanced, it became normal to consider that that might be
> > > the
> > > case and so rather than shunning them like they do today, they honoured
> > > &
> > > revered them instead...
> >
> > "Seven years your right, under a flagstone, in a quagmire,
> > Without food, without taste, but the thirst you ever torturing,
> > The law of the judges your lesson, and prayer your language:
> > And if you like to return You will be, for a time, a Druid, perhaps.”
> > (Ancient Irish Poem)
> >
> > (but of course I have had 4X7 so far)
>
> ### - that's actually very nice... but there are modern equivalents too...
>
> e.g., "genius is often touched with madness", or "there's no such thing as
> genius that isn't touched by madness"
>
> or an even better one said by mick jagger in the film 'Performance'
>
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_idn3bWXMl0
>
> "i'll tell you this: the only performance that makes it, that really makes
> it, that makes it all the way, is the one that achieves madness, right? am
> i right? you with me?"
>
> a truly great movie ;)

Also see Kay Redfield Jamison’s book
Touched with Fire: Manic-Depressive Illness and the Artistic Temperament

Also see the film A Beautiful Mind, about paranoid schizophrenic
mathematician John Nash, who won the Nobel Prize in
Economics (there is no Nobel Prize in Mathematics I think
due to a dispute Nobel had with a mathematician, but there
is now a Fields Medal awarded to young mathematicians).

-- 
David Dalton [email protected] https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill; And the
hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)