Re: Betrayel

liaM <[email protected]>
Newsgroups alt.dreams.castaneda,alt.support.depression,alt.support.schizophrenia,alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.philosophy.taoism
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 8/7/2024 11:07 PM, slider wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Aug 2024 21:53:44 +0100, David Dalton <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2024, slider wrote
>> (in article <op.2r5imgxw7eafsp@slider>):
>>
>>> On Wed, 07 Aug 2024 12:18:05 +0100, liaM<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>
>>> > On 8/7/2024 4:08 AM, slider wrote:
>>> > > On Tue, 06 Aug 2024 21:07:55 +0100, kami<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 23:17:18 +0200, Venus as a Boy wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > https://slowspacetemplehealing.help/2024/08/02/betrayel/
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > The christian church, not Christ, go hand in hand with 
>>> psychiatry,
>>> > > > > they
>>> > > > > say only maybe a few hundred or thousand can be healers, have 
>>> christ
>>> > > > > consciousnes if any one, or be seers etc., but according to 
>>> indigenous
>>> > > > > people "mental sick" persons could be chosen to heal (see 
>>> homepage)
>>> > > > > etc...
>>> > > > > According to Phil Borges information that about 20 % of the 
>>> population
>>> > > > > at least in the west are diagnosed with "mentall illness" you 
>>> can
>>> > > > > calculate that about 1.6 billion people probably worldwide 
>>> could be
>>> > > > > considered healers or seers or anything spiritual help for
>>> > > > > humanity....
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > that is just delusional thinking, romanticising defects as 
>>> doped alloy.
>>> > > ### - not really, in india for example mentally ill/challenged 
>>> people
>>> > > are
>>> > > considered to have been blessed by the spirit, and are revered...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > As in many tribal cultures, people are not thrown to the street or to
>>> > Gaza when they happen not to belong to the dominant sects.
>>>
>>> ### - there have been enough cases of that though: the inuits used to 
>>> put
>>> granny out on the ice when her teeth wore down; no longer of any 
>>> practical
>>> use and a drain on precious resources they simply threw her away? (which
>>> all seems a bit callous to me lol)
>>>
>>> so no, not only in cases where society took pity on others for whatever
>>> reason and tried to look after them (although undoubtedly there was some
>>> of that too, particularly in families unlike the inuit) but because it
>>> was/became generally recognised that spiritually advanced people often
>>> behaved in unusual, sometimes seemingly totally crazy ways! the average
>>> man in the street being unable to discern genuine madness from those
>>> spiritually advanced, it became normal to consider that that might be 
>>> the
>>> case and so rather than shunning them like they do today, they 
>>> honoured &
>>> revered them instead...
>>
>> "Seven years your right, under a flagstone, in a quagmire,
>> Without food, without taste, but the thirst you ever torturing,
>> The law of the judges your lesson, and prayer your language:
>> And if you like to return You will be, for a time, a Druid, perhaps.”
>> (Ancient Irish Poem)
>>
>> (but of course I have had 4X7 so far)
> 
> ### - that's actually very nice... but there are modern equivalents too...
> 
> e.g., "genius is often touched with madness", or "there's no such thing 
> as genius that isn't touched by madness"
> 
> or an even better one said by mick jagger in the film 'Performance'
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_idn3bWXMl0
> 
> "i'll tell you this: the only performance that makes it, that really 
> makes it, that makes it all the way, is the one that achieves madness, 
> right? am i right? you with me?"
> 
> a truly great movie ;)
> 

Anyone living in a small village or commune, where nearly everyone
is an acquaintance or friend, knows that there's not a single
person or child that is not distinctly different from everyone else.
In such a place, a person has to be accepting else become a pariah of 
sorts, the sort of person who makes a case of his or her difference.

It may take awhile, but things will soon reveal themselves in the USA.
The pariahs will take a fall, much like Eugene McCarthy in the '50s
or Trump in 2020.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump have to
spend time in jail, genius pariah that he is..
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