Re: Betrayel

On Sun, 11 Aug 2024 18:00:07 +0100, someone <[email protected]> wrote:


> Rhetoric and hyperbole can be fun.

### - it's too late for any of that now, you've already been exposed as  
wearing a mask to hide behind, which isn't really the problem so much as  
you actually 'believing' in that mask and thinking that mask is the real  
you, it's not though... it's just a mask


>
> In terms of topics, newsgroups usually have them.
> No idea what group you are cross-posting from.
>
> Do you have or have you had depression, schizophrenia
> or an interest in Buddhism, Taoism or Castaneda?

### - am posting from the castaneda group so we know quite a bit about  
sorcery here, although i don't see what that's got to do with anything,  
none of that matters enough to be an issue, even mental illness so-called  
isn't an issue ultimately, and we'd have gotten to that had you instead  
followed the thread/line of thought through...

e.g., and to cut to the chase: i've been teaching people to lucid dream  
for the last 8 or 9 years, a particular + new type of dreaming called  
WILDs or waking dreams, which involves actually dreaming while one is  
still fully wide awake (waking dreams!) something which involves  
deliberately opening the area of perception that so-called schizophrenics  
have lost control of opening/closing altogether... iow: for them that door  
opens/closes on them whenever IT wants instead of them opening/closing it  
themselves whenever THEY want...

it being my contention that, when it comes to WILDing and  
exploring/probing those altered states of waking awareness, schizophrenics  
could well turn out to be the ultimate connoisseurs of it, total masters  
in fact because whether they realise it or not, having that door already  
wide open can actually be a 'gift' in terms of facility and ease in  
reaching it, whereas so called normal people often have to struggle quite  
a bit to get that door open initially, after which they are now  
technically schizophrenics too albeit in complete control of it, the term  
'schizophrenic' referring more to the fact that a person is 'not' in  
control of it but are subject to it, and as such it's an intrusion into  
their life they could well do without because they didn't ask for it and  
it just screws everything up...

my 'point' being (which we have gotten to eventually) is that there 'are'  
instances in which so-called mental illness (e.g., schizophrenia) means  
that person is actually closer by default to an altered state on a daily  
basis than the average man in the street is, thus 'some' of what the OP  
was saying/suggesting could well be correct, albeit in that particular  
instance he couched in semi-religious terms (he mentioned christians and  
stuff as being the context)

cut through all that 'narrative, however, and underneath it all is the  
clear suggestion that mental illness might not be quite what (or all) it's  
currently defined as being, there's obviously more to it than just  
dismissing the whole thing because that's what doctors say to do... and  
because everything's an aberration to them that doesn't conform itself to  
being 'normal' - that's their gauge for everything! - Normal/not-normal:  
they've made a whole science out of it ffs lol, and they STILL don't  
understand it! :)