Re: [PHP-EVANGELISM] Bad rep?
[email protected] (Lothar Scholz) Tue, 6 May 2003 17:04:30 +0200
| Newsgroups | php.evangelism |
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| Organization | Scriptolutions |
| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
Hello Graham, GR> How do I know this? Well, looking at the job market in the UK, it seems GR> that most, if not all, the people looking for PHP skills (a small, but GR> increasing, number) rate the value of those skills at something GR> considerably less than basic HTML coding. In fact, if you went for a PHP GR> job, you'd probably get better paid for making the tea... It seems that not very much PHP programming is done in companies that have larger complicated websolutions. Please don't quote the few famous companies that use PHP - we know them very well. And they are right, until PHP has real multithreading (with the new hyperthreading Pentium-IV - it's a must have) and an application server we won't see much better paid PHP jobs. This would requires much more skills then a simple "load-process-(store)-output" schema of todays PHP pages. As the boss of a company i would never pay so much for PHP programmer, because the solutions that can be developed with PHP are not so difficult. Not difficult means also i can hire some students that do it for 750 Euro a month (which is a lot for a german student - even if he studies computer science). If it is more complicated i would convince the customer to use java or something else where i can get a lot of money. GR> What can be done, if I'm right? Move to PHP5 quickly and write some kind of application server. Increase the solution range and it will get better. But even with this i don't expect that a PHP programmer will ever get the same then a Java programmer (in the average of course). And remember that the qualifications you need for webprogramming is in general not very high, no matter what language you use. No wonder why Webprogrammers are called a new generation of "Manchester steel workers" - working 12 hours for a handfull of bread and water. Best regards, Lothar mailto:[email protected]