Re: PHP on .NET DLR

On Sunday 12 August 2007 02:33:14 K T Ligesh wrote:

>
>  Novel has ported Silverlight to linux. So the question of cross-platform
> for silverlight doesn't exist anymore.

Novel was fscked by M$. They are M$ puppy, they need M$ money to live thas why 
they bedding with M$. One upon a time Novell king of the PC networking. How 
sad. 

Also I don't remember anything big running with Mono.

> > If you thing MS still give full support PHP as own languages on IIS after
> > capturing %70 of web server market share, i'm sorry you are fool.  >
> > MS wants every peny on PC world. First they bang other offices, then Web
> > Browsers, then IM's, then SQL servers, Then Mail servers, then Borland
> > (or other developer tools).
>
>  Everyone wants every penny in the world. Heck, even I want every penny in
> the world. It is just that MS has been the most succesful. That's OK.
> That's their business, and they are doing it well. Anyway, MSs ethical
> conduct is irrelevant.

So use MS tools which MS wants it. MS does not want anybody, anyone, anything 
other than MS in PC sector.

If that Silver thingy successful enough next wersion will rubby# or someting 
like that.


> > Their current target was Adobe especially Flash (because of success of
> > flash based media streaming, stil they don't understand because of code
> > headcache even windows users chooses flash based sites). And new weapon
> > was that silver thingy. Of course they choose Ruby because it was very
> > HOT for Marketing. There was tons of Ruby yada yada articles everery
> > where. And there was noting new in PHP community.
>
>  MS financially supported Tomas and Lada when they were working on
> phalanger. I don't think MS is the culprit here. There is some reason why
> MS has dropped PHP, I am trying to figure that out.
>

My bet is  "Because of Marketing". PHP on windows was not hot fusss. Even 
suberbly support doesnt sound good.

And ruby syntaxed flash may attract somebody else.

M$ is not suberb tech company. M$ is suberb marketing company.

> > I did not see any messages local bbs for ruby development or python
> > development. They are good on papers and when some ordinary guy try to
> > develop someting. IT was not good (or easy) enough as php.
> >
> > We had tons of matured products.
> >
> > My point of view PHP needs better things for browser side. Php needs
> > focusing new features
>
>  I am talking about PHP on .NET, which is a server side technology.
> Silverlight is a simple browser frontend for the backend web application,
> similar to Ajax. PHP on .NET has no disadvantage, and an implementation
> exists in a complete form, and my request is that the community should take
> it seriously.

So I'm talking about, PHP was so easy to write programs. Those days 
browserside was hot and I cannot use php on browser side.

Javascript, Flash and other things was much complicated to me and my kind. If 
PHP offers someting on browser side (like xajax and xaja projects) by 
internally and some standardization for  user input validation in PHP6 it was 
overkill for that ruby on rocket and silverlighty 2000watt.

We won the server side. New front was browser side. This is the battle of 
desktop NOT moving WIndows desktop to WEB. Remember we don't want M$ else we 
know C# and wrote applications in it not battling in PHP lists.

Regards

Sancar