Re: [PHP] Re: PHP vs JAVA

2013/8/21 Curtis Maurand <[email protected]>

>
>
>
> Sorry in advance for the top post.
>
> Use the right tool for
> the Job.  I've use Java, C# and PHP.
>
> 1.  I hate the
> Perl-like object calls in PHP.  I'd rather use "." notation
> in C# and Java.  It saves a lot of wear and tear on my left pinky
> finger.
>

Actually the problem is, that the dot "." is already in use. With
$foo.bar() you cannot tell, if you want to call the method "bar()" on the
object "$foo", or if you want to concatenate the value of "$foo" to the
result of the function "bar()". There is no other way around this than a
different operator for method calls.


> 2.  Java and C# are both typed languages.  Say what
> you want, but I have working with a string like "02" and have
> PHP convert that to an integer.  sometimes I want that zero in
> front.  If I want that to be an integer in Java it's "int
> myInteger = Integer.parseInt("02");"
>
> 3.
> Java development environments (Eclipses, NetBeans, IBM RAD) are pretty
> horrible.  Visual Studio is hands down a better envrionment, even the
> older versions of it. I've hooked Visual Studio into SVN in the past and
> it works well.
>

Ever tried the jetbrains products? :D (No, they  don't pay me)


>
> 4 PHP development environments are many and
> varied and all of them suck at web debugging.  I've used PHPEdit,
> Zend, Bluefish, Eclipse and a couple others.  Bluefish works better
> on Linux than it does on Windows.
>

I use PhpStorm and it works quite fine.


>
> Use the tool for the job at
> hand.
>
> Just my $0.02 worth.
>
> cheers,
> Curtis
>
> Tim Streater wrote:
> > On 20 Aug 2013 at 23:59,
> PHP List <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> While I don't have any references to back it up - my guess would be
> >> that
> >> Java may be seen as more versatile in
> general programming terms.  A
> >> staggering number of
> enterprise level web applications are built with
> >> Java, add
> to that the possibility of writing Android apps with the same
> >> knowledge.
> >
> > To me the salient point is,
> does java has as extensive a library or set of
> > interfaces to
> other packages (such as SQLite, mysql, etc)?
> >
> >> I
> would say that, in general, the other teacher is incorrect speaking
> >> strictly in terms of web development.  PHP has already won that
> crown
> >> many times over.  That said, when I was in University,
> it was difficult
> >> to find a programming class that taught
> anything but Java - and that
> >> was
> >> 10yrs ago
> now.  I chalked it up to the education bubble not being able
> >>
> to see what the rest of the world is actually doing.
> >
> >
> Was PHP OOP-capable at the time? Perhaps the edu-bubble was simply
> looking
> > down its nose at PHP. There being lots of courses proves
> nothing in and of
> > itself. 20 years ago, there were lots of PC
> mags you could buy, which
> > caused some folks to say "look
> how much better the PC is supported than
> > other platforms".
> Truth was, at the time, such support was needed given
> > the mess
> of 640k limits, DOS, IRQs and the like, most of which issues have
> > ceased to be relevant.
> >
> > Anyway, why should one
> need a course to learn PHP, assuming you already
> > know other
> languages. It's simple enough.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> --  Tim
> >
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