Re: [PHP] Re: PHP vs JAVA

Sebastian Krebs wrote:
> 2013/8/21 Curtis Maurand
<[email protected]>
> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry in advance for the top post.
>>
>> Use the right tool for
>> the Job. 
I've use Java, C# and PHP.
>>
>> 1.  I hate the
>> Perl-like object calls in PHP.  I'd rather use "."
notation
>> in C# and Java.  It saves a lot of wear and tear on
my left pinky
>> finger.
>>
> 
>
Actually the problem is, that the dot "." is already in use.
With
> $foo.bar() you cannot tell, if you want to call the method
"bar()" on the
> object "$foo", or if you want
to concatenate the value of "$foo" to the
> result of
the function "bar()". There is no other way around this than
a
> different operator for method calls.

I didn't think
of that.  It seems to me there could be an easier operator than ->
which sometimes will make me stop and look at what keys I'm trying to
hit.  Just a thought.  I forgot about the concatenation operator
which is "+" in Java/C#
> 
> 
>> 2. 
Java and C# are both typed languages.  Say what
>> you want,
but I have working with a string like "02" and have
>> PHP convert that to an integer.  sometimes I want that zero
in
>> front.  If I want that to be an integer in Java it's
"int
>> myInteger =
Integer.parseInt("02");"
>>
>> 3.
>> Java development environments (Eclipses, NetBeans, IBM RAD) are
pretty
>> horrible.  Visual Studio is hands down a better
envrionment, even the
>> older versions of it. I've hooked
Visual Studio into SVN in the past and
>> it works well.
>>
> 
> Ever tried the jetbrains products? :D (No,
they  don't pay me)

I have not, but it looks interesting. 
I'll have to try it.

> 
> 
>>
>> 4 PHP development environments are many and
>>
varied and all of them suck at web debugging.  I've used PHPEdit,
>> Zend, Bluefish, Eclipse and a couple others.  Bluefish works
better
>> on Linux than it does on Windows.
>>
> 
> I use PhpStorm and it works quite fine.
> 
> 
>>
>> Use the tool for the job at
>> hand.
>>
>> Just my $0.02 worth.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Curtis
>>
>> Tim Streater wrote:
>> > On 20 Aug 2013 at
23:59,
>> PHP List <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> While I don't have
any references to back it up - my guess would be
>> >>
that
>> >> Java may be seen as more versatile in
>> general programming terms.  A
>> >> staggering
number of
>> enterprise level web applications are built
with
>> >> Java, add
>> to that the
possibility of writing Android apps with the same
>> >>
knowledge.
>> >
>> > To me the salient point
is,
>> does java has as extensive a library or set of
>> > interfaces to
>> other packages (such as
SQLite, mysql, etc)?
>> >
>> >> I
>> would say that, in general, the other teacher is incorrect
speaking
>> >> strictly in terms of web development.  PHP
has already won that
>> crown
>> >> many times
over.  That said, when I was in University,
>> it was
difficult
>> >> to find a programming class that
taught
>> anything but Java - and that
>> >>
was
>> >> 10yrs ago
>> now.  I chalked it up
to the education bubble not being able
>> >>
>> to see what the rest of the world is actually doing.
>> >
>> >
>> Was PHP OOP-capable at
the time? Perhaps the edu-bubble was simply
>> looking
>> > down its nose at PHP. There being lots of courses
proves
>> nothing in and of
>> > itself. 20 years
ago, there were lots of PC
>> mags you could buy, which
>> > caused some folks to say "look
>> how much
better the PC is supported than
>> > other
platforms".
>> Truth was, at the time, such support was
needed given
>> > the mess
>> of 640k limits,
DOS, IRQs and the like, most of which issues have
>> >
ceased to be relevant.
>> >
>> > Anyway, why
should one
>> need a course to learn PHP, assuming you
already
>> > know other
>> languages. It's simple
enough.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
Cheers
>> --  Tim
>> >
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