Re: [INTERNALS-WIN] Re: ext/odbc no longer builds under VC6

[email protected] ("Pierre Joye")
Newsgroups php.internals.win
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 4:00 AM, Steph Fox <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I'm just pointing out that we don't have any way to take a look and go
>>
>> You do not have, other have.
>
> Would 'other' be Rob?

Yes. And Liz too (in theory as she never got in). Garrett too,


> I know Liz doesn't. I don't. Derick doesn't. Andi
> doesn't. Stas doesn't. Who did I miss?

Why should they? None of them are involved in the Windows builds
process. It is an snaps box, not a custom server open to everyone.
There is enough people with access to take care of it in a sane and
safe way.

> The thing is, we've been here before
> - the whole point of starting over was to get away from relying on a single
> person and a single box. If you get hit by a bus tomorrow, how do we
> reproduce your work?


>
>> So please keep your angriness and
>> perpetual attacks about me not being open or doing everything behind
>> the scene for yourself, thank you.
>
> I wasn't being angry. Nor was I attacking.
>
>>> VC6 Enterprise, hm? Is that in any way different from the MSVC6++ that
>>> Zend
>>> had, and Edin had, and Liz had?
>>
>> We always use it. Always.
>
> This isn't actually true.

Read:

http://blog.thepimp.net/archives/PHP-5.2.7RC3-released,-please-test!.html#comments

That's when we noticed the difference between VC6 Enterprise and a
standard edition. Why? Because we installed the new snap box using a
standard edition. After some investigations (thanks Garrett), we
figured out that VC6 standard was the cause of the slow down. VC6
Enterprise, which has the exact same version numbers than the standard
version, produces faster binaries. We reinstall the box with the
Enterprise version, the exact same version used on the old snap box.

>> Using a normal VC6 version has a significant performance impact on the
>> resulting binary (like 1.5-2x slower using Zend/bench.php).
>
> Right, so "always" is quite recent in fact. Like, within the last year or
> so.

So much ado about nothing.

My apologizes to the reader for the off topcis, and sorry for the
noises. Let go back to more productive activities.

-- 
Pierre

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