Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Candidate Info for Home Page

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 17:43, Ferenc Kovacs <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Mark Scholten <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> > From: Stewart Lord [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 5:55 AM
>> >
>> > On 2011-01-07, at 1:28 AM, Mark Scholten wrote:
>> >
>> > > Maybe this would be an idea:
>> > > ...
>> > > Bottom left: what is PHP information.
>> > > ...
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Mark,
>> >
>> > There is some 'what is php' info in the header. Were you thinking we
>> > needed something more?
>> >
>> Hello Stew,
>>
>> I think it would be a nice addition to the basic "what is php" information
>> that is listed in the header. Or do you know something better to put there?
>>
>> Regards, Mark
>>
>>
> Just an idea, but I always wondered why don't we have something like
> http://www.python.org/about/apps/ and http://www.python.org/about/success/
> <http://www.python.org/about/success/>Or like the
> http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/about/
> The websites for the other languages usually have an about page, where the
> visitor can get a first glance of the language, what are the main
> advantages/differences over the other language, and links the "famous"
> projects(applications and or sites) and the documentation/examples etc.
> where the visitor can get start exploring the language.
> I found the php.net a little bit weak in comparison.

Because maintaing that list of 'famous' projects would be a political nightmare.




> We have a What is PHP box on the front page:
> "
> What is PHP?
>
> PHP is a widely-used general-purpose scripting language that is especially
> suited for Web development and can be embedded into HTML. If you are new to
> PHP and want to get some idea of how it works, try the introductory
> tutorial<http://php.net/tut.php>.
> After that, check out the online manual <http://php.net/docs.php>, and the
> example archive sites and some of the other resources available in thelinks
> section <http://php.net/links.php>."
>
> and a http://hu.php.net/manual/en/introduction.php but thats all.
>
> but I can't found information on php.net about how great the language is,
> who uses the language, projects like wikipedia/mediawiki, drupal, wordpress,
> facebook, etc.

People shouldn't chose PHP just because someone else did. Maybe PHP
isn't even suited for their project.
We can describe why PHP is so awesome in the tutorial (which needs to
be rewritten), but I am really against random company/app/lib name
dropping.



> And maybe it would be a good idea, to push some link from the php.net sites
> to the frontpage/mega dropdown (like pear/pecl, maybe the wiki), and remove
> some old stuff for example the CVS related stuff should die IMO(

I agree that links to [gtk|pecl|pear|*].php.net should be linked
somehow, like the wiki already is (see the "community" dropdown).

Unsure where you found references to CVS..


> cvsold.php.net, and the commit list mailing lists could also be renamed,
> maybe something like something-commits or something-vcs so we don't have to
> change that again, when we migrate from svn to something else).

Thats a pain to do. Blindly renaming the lists may not be that hard,
but what about all the archives? Should the -cvs@ names become aliases
to -commits@? Should we move all the current subscribers? We'd need to
update the commit hooks to post to the new list.. There are bunch of
things that needs to be remembered and dealt with :)

-Hannes