Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Candidate Info for Home Page

Bringing back the discussion to the list, didn't meant to do this off-list.

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Hannes Magnusson <[email protected]
> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 13:57, Ferenc Kovacs <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Hannes Magnusson
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 19:34, Ferenc Kovacs <[email protected]> wrote:
> [..]
> >> > Yeah, because you are seeing the project as from a contributor POV.
> But
> >> > if
> >> > you check out the PHP project, as an end user/consumer, who just looks
> >> > for a
> >> > interpreted language for web development, then it is important, that
> who
> >> > else is using this project, how much contributors does the project
> have,
> >> > etc.
> >> > Because you don't want to be standing on the shoulders of giants when
> >> > they
> >> > collapse. :)
> >>
> >>
> >> Contributors can be browsed on http://people.php.net. As for "who are
> >> using it", where would you draw the line? Only fortune500 companies?
> >> Medical related? Goverments?
> >> This sort of stuff is simply riddled with political aspects I don't
> >> want to deal with.
> >> Simply our links page is controversial enough, and will be removed. I
> >> don't want to replace that battle with an ever more profiled one.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > when I was talking about contributors, I meant something a little bit
> > broader than people who have @php.net account, so thats not the same as
> > people.php.net (and Paul Dragoonis said something about that
> people.php.net
> > shouldn't be online in the current form, so maybe that should be sorted
> > out(I don't know the reasons other than it's old and unfinished) else
> it's
> > hardly better, than nothing).
> > I understand your concerns, but from my POV, I think it's not unsolvable,
> > maybe we should rest this for now, and when some other people joins the
> > conversation, we can came up with something, which everybody can agree
> on.
>
>
> I have no idea why he said that, he is in no way involved with that
> project.
> The idea with people.php.net is to make information about the
> developers more accessible, and improve "who is who" in the project,
> and even map out the contributors locations.
>

It's a good idea, but it is missing content.
I've just checked some of the core devs:
http://people.php.net/user.php?username=stas
http://people.php.net/user.php?username=sniper
http://people.php.net/user.php?username=pajoye
http://people.php.net/user.php?username=rasmus

btw: the autocomplete search list the matches twice, if one person matches
multiple time: when I searched typed "sta" for stas, it listed him twice,
once for the Stanislav, and once for his nick Stas


> Sure, there is a lot of work still to be done, but I think its
> valuable place for newcomers to see who are behind the project, and
> much more valuable then listing random companies who have no
> involvement at all.
>

Agree, but just for the record: I didn't suggested that we should list
random companies who have no involvement at all. :)


>
>
>
> >> >> >> Thats a pain to do. Blindly renaming the lists may not be that
> hard,
> >> >> >> but what about all the archives? Should the -cvs@ names become
> >> >> >> aliases
> >> >> >> to -commits@? Should we move all the current subscribers? We'd
> need
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> update the commit hooks to post to the new list.. There are bunch
> of
> >> >> >> things that needs to be remembered and dealt with :)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > It should have been taken care of when the migration was taking
> >> >> > place.
> >> >> > I think that the actual work would require less than a day for
> >> >> > somebody
> >> >> > who
> >> >> > has a list of the required modifications and access for the boxes.
> >> >> > The only thing that missing is to decide/agree on the idea, write
> up
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > list, and take a day off :)
> >> >> > Tyrael
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I work on the PHP project to scratch an itch. I do not itch in that
> >> >> area. Feel free to do it though. Would be nice to have <foo>-commits@
> >> >> rather then -cvs@ :)
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Sorry, I didn't meant to boss you around, I was just talking about the
> >> > size
> >> > of the task in general. :)
> >>
> >> Right, and I have no problem with if someone wants to do it. It just
> >> has to be thought out. Will it be possible to send subscribe requests
> >> to <foo>-cvs-subscribe@ still like hundreds of blog entries, magazine
> >> articles, and books recommend?
> >>
> >
> > I would go with something like an auto-reply for those adresses: sorry,
> > moved, you probably looking for <foo>-commits-subscribe@ read the
> > announcement here: <link>
> > something like this.
>
> I'm just listing random problems that need to be taken care of :)
> All I'm saying; it has to be thought through.
>

Then we are agree on this, if you remember, I said, that if you have the
list, the required work for make this happen, isn't much.


>
>
> > ps: I've just noticed, that we switched to privat emailing, are there any
> > reason for this to be discussed off-list, or just a mistake on your part?
> > Tyrael
>
> You started started it, I figured you didn't want this on-list.
>
>
/o\
not intenionally

Tyrael