Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Candidate Info for Home Page

I couldn't really work out what the people.php.net mention was really about
from your conversation.. I just mentioned it to Dan brown about to remember
to add that site in the "networks" list. Cheers

On 9 Jan 2011 18:23, "Ferenc Kovacs" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bringing back the discussion to the list, didn't meant to do this
off-list.
>
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Hannes Magnusson <
[email protected]
>> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 13:57, Ferenc Kovacs <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Hannes Magnusson
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 19:34, Ferenc Kovacs <[email protected]> wrote:
>> [..]
>> >> > Yeah, because you are seeing the project as from a contributor POV.
>> But
>> >> > if
>> >> > you check out the PHP project, as an end user/consumer, who just
looks
>> >> > for a
>> >> > interpreted language for web development, then it is important, that
>> who
>> >> > else is using this project, how much contributors does the project
>> have,
>> >> > etc.
>> >> > Because you don't want to be standing on the shoulders of giants
when
>> >> > they
>> >> > collapse. :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Contributors can be browsed on http://people.php.net. As for "who are
>> >> using it", where would you draw the line? Only fortune500 companies?
>> >> Medical related? Goverments?
>> >> This sort of stuff is simply riddled with political aspects I don't
>> >> want to deal with.
>> >> Simply our links page is controversial enough, and will be removed. I
>> >> don't want to replace that battle with an ever more profiled one.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > when I was talking about contributors, I meant something a little bit
>> > broader than people who have @php.net account, so thats not the same as
>> > people.php.net (and Paul Dragoonis said something about that
>> people.php.net
>> > shouldn't be online in the current form, so maybe that should be sorted
>> > out(I don't know the reasons other than it's old and unfinished) else
>> it's
>> > hardly better, than nothing).
>> > I understand your concerns, but from my POV, I think it's not
unsolvable,
>> > maybe we should rest this for now, and when some other people joins the
>> > conversation, we can came up with something, which everybody can agree
>> on.
>>
>>
>> I have no idea why he said that, he is in no way involved with that
>> project.
>> The idea with people.php.net is to make information about the
>> developers more accessible, and improve "who is who" in the project,
>> and even map out the contributors locations.
>>
>
> It's a good idea, but it is missing content.
> I've just checked some of the core devs:
> http://people.php.net/user.php?username=stas
> http://people.php.net/user.php?username=sniper
> http://people.php.net/user.php?username=pajoye
> http://people.php.net/user.php?username=rasmus
>
> btw: the autocomplete search list the matches twice, if one person matches
> multiple time: when I searched typed "sta" for stas, it listed him twice,
> once for the Stanislav, and once for his nick Stas
>
>
>> Sure, there is a lot of work still to be done, but I think its
>> valuable place for newcomers to see who are behind the project, and
>> much more valuable then listing random companies who have no
>> involvement at all.
>>
>
> Agree, but just for the record: I didn't suggested that we should list
> random companies who have no involvement at all. :)
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> >> >> >> Thats a pain to do. Blindly renaming the lists may not be that
>> hard,
>> >> >> >> but what about all the archives? Should the -cvs@ names become
>> >> >> >> aliases
>> >> >> >> to -commits@? Should we move all the current subscribers? We'd
>> need
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> update the commit hooks to post to the new list.. There are
bunch
>> of
>> >> >> >> things that needs to be remembered and dealt with :)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > It should have been taken care of when the migration was taking
>> >> >> > place.
>> >> >> > I think that the actual work would require less than a day for
>> >> >> > somebody
>> >> >> > who
>> >> >> > has a list of the required modifications and access for the
boxes.
>> >> >> > The only thing that missing is to decide/agree on the idea, write
>> up
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > list, and take a day off :)
>> >> >> > Tyrael
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I work on the PHP project to scratch an itch. I do not itch in that
>> >> >> area. Feel free to do it though. Would be nice to have
<foo>-commits@
>> >> >> rather then -cvs@ :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry, I didn't meant to boss you around, I was just talking about
the
>> >> > size
>> >> > of the task in general. :)
>> >>
>> >> Right, and I have no problem with if someone wants to do it. It just
>> >> has to be thought out. Will it be possible to send subscribe requests
>> >> to <foo>-cvs-subscribe@ still like hundreds of blog entries, magazine
>> >> articles, and books recommend?
>> >>
>> >
>> > I would go with something like an auto-reply for those adresses: sorry,
>> > moved, you probably looking for <foo>-commits-subscribe@ read the
>> > announcement here: <link>
>> > something like this.
>>
>> I'm just listing random problems that need to be taken care of :)
>> All I'm saying; it has to be thought through.
>>
>
> Then we are agree on this, if you remember, I said, that if you have the
> list, the required work for make this happen, isn't much.
>
>
>>
>>
>> > ps: I've just noticed, that we switched to privat emailing, are there
any
>> > reason for this to be discussed off-list, or just a mistake on your
part?
>> > Tyrael
>>
>> You started started it, I figured you didn't want this on-list.
>>
>>
> /o\
> not intenionally
>
> Tyrael