Re: [UG-ADMINS] Re: UG exposure progress... :)

Hannes,

I think, and Lorna can correct me if i'm wrong, that the UG layer in
joind.in is not about Listing UGs but simplifying the process of adding the
monthly meetings
so we can provide our speakers with feedback. So the choice of php.ug is
the correct one for the purpose of listing UGs.

Just clearing that up. I'll see if we can involve the php.net website in
our coding efforts in amsterdamPHP.

*Rafael Machado Dohms*

*Developer, Evangelist, Gamer*
*http://doh.ms <http://doh.ms>*


On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Hannes Magnusson <[email protected]
> wrote:

> I personally don't have the time to integrate UG layer into joind.in.
> I know it has been in the works for 1-2 years by now, but I went with
> php.ug in the end and have no plans on using joind.in for listing
> usergroups or usergroup events.
>
>
> As James mentions though, joind.in is great for conferences and cfp,
> and I plan on replacing our php.net/conferences page fully with data
> from joind.in. At the moment I am focusing on the usergroups though.
> One step at a time.
>
> This leaves the "training/courses" aspect of cal.php to die, which I
> am perfectly happy with.
>
> I may want to then resurrect cal.php with a calendar view of ug.php
> and /conferences/, but that would rather be a long-term goal as time
> is sparse and stuff takes time.
>
> -Hannes
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Lorna Mitchell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > It is likely that joind.in will gain more usergroup functionality in the
> > future in any case (contributions welcome of course!) since it's widely
> used
> > by usergroups and as we've discussed previously, we could better serve
> their
> > needs by making it easier for known group admins to create their monthly
> > events without needing approval.  We're also keen to integrate better
> with
> > other services such as meetup, opencfp - and anything else that seems
> > useful.  Our data is all open and always will be, so if you can make use
> of
> > it - please do, we'd be happy to support that.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Lorna
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6 February 2014 09:23, Andreas Heigl <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Am 06.02.14 10:04, schrieb Rafael Dohms:
> >> > Maybe a good idea is to have a cal.php page that just grabs data from
> >> > php.UG and joind.in. That will let everyone have access to the info
> but
> >> > will pipe the actual data to the proper places.
> >>
> >> I was already thinking of enabling a different layer on PHP.ug to
> >> display conferences on the map. That way conferences could be treated
> >> more or less like usergroups with a yearly meetup. So the dates would be
> >> also able to retrieve for display on a new Calendar-Site on php.net.
> >> That would also allow the conference-organisers to add different dates
> >> or milestones to their calendar-file like start and end of CfP or end of
> >> earlyBird-Ticket sales and so on.
> >>
> >> Currently there is nothing going on in that direction, but when the
> >> community feels the need to do something along that line, we could push
> >> that forward.
> >>
> >> But I'm also happy, when we do a straight division between conferences
> >> (joind.in) and usergroups (php.ug).
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Andreas
> >> > On Feb 6, 2014 9:40 AM, "James Titcumb" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> My only minor concern with dropping www.php.net/cal.php is that
> there
> >> >> are
> >> >> non-UG events listed there - primarily conferences. I know there are
> >> >> plenty
> >> >> of existing sources for those sort of dates, but surely if php.netis
> >> >> supporting UGs, they should also be supporting the many community-run
> >> >> conferences?
> >> >>
> >> >> Some people use cal.php as a resource (perhaps amongst others) to
> plan
> >> >> visits to other locations, to find UGs and conferences, and other
> types
> >> >> of
> >> >> PHP-related meetups.
> >> >>
> >> >> What do others think?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 5 February 2014 20:48, Hannes Magnusson <
> [email protected]
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Hannes Magnusson
> >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>>> Hi all
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I have a quick PoC for the UG exposure as we talked about in
> >> >>>> December:
> >> >>>> http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.strrchr.php?showug=1
> >> >>>> Or any other php.net page, adding ?showug=1, or enable it on
> >> >>> www.php.net/my.php
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Hopefully this will encourage people to lookup their local
> usergroups
> >> >>>> and join it.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> The php.net/ug.php page itself needs help.. If someone is
> interested
> >> >>>> in making it awesome? :)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I also noticed that the vast majority of usergroups registered on
> >> >>>> php.ug do *not* have ical url, which is why there are so few that
> >> >>>> have
> >> >>>> their "next event" listed :(
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Considering I believe that majority of the UG leaders are on this
> >> >>>> list.. You guys wanna update your registration on php.ug? :)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Note that since this is just a PoC only random few (currtime % 10)
> >> >>>> will see the "headsup" banner, if not explicitly enabled.. And the
> >> >>>> data itself is currently hardcoded and everything is a quick
> >> >>>> experimental hack :)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I'd love feature suggestions and comments - and extra props for
> >> >>>> anyone
> >> >>>> contributing to the visual elements of this adventure.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Just to make it clear; I plan to retire
> >> >> http://www.php.net/cal.phpcompletely.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If anyone could help me out with making ug.php pretty, and
> >> >>> functionally better then cal.php it would be great!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I plan on rolling this out as I've removed the hardcoded data :)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -Hannes
> >> >>>
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> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Lorna Mitchell
> > http://lornajane.net
> >
> >
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