Re: [UG-ADMINS] Slack-Team for Usergroups available

Hey John,
     What are the issues they are complaining about?
Beth


On 3/23/15 12:46 PM, John Congdon wrote:
> Well... I hooked up SDPHP with the slack -> irc bot, and the reactions are
> mixed.  I am trying to support everyone, but I have people asking me to
> remove it, when it was only live for 5 minutes.
>
> We are leaving in place for now, and will see how it works for us.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Eric <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> We have a decent IRC for SDPHP with a good amount of people participating
>> but we have a lot of people who struggle to understand how to get on to
>> IRC, or how to register a handle. And don’t even get me started on trying
>> to explain using a bouncer so you don’t miss discussion. I think we will
>> always use IRC and I know I will personally continue using IRC because its
>> just what I do.
>>
>> With all that said, I am a fan of Slack for a couple reasons
>>
>>
>>     - I like how an organization can have multiple channels. This is nice
>>     especially when you use it to coordinate efforts and events. Yeah you can
>>     create multiple IRC channels buts it not he same as logging into one
>>     organization and seeing which channels they have to offer. For groups like
>>     the PHP-UG this makes a lot of sense.
>>     - Easy to use. It just is.. I love IRC.. I use it from the command
>>     line with IRSSI and I have a couple clients I like to use but end of the
>>     day Slack is drop dead simple to configure and use.
>>     - Integration .. With sites like IFTTT.com giving you the ability to
>>     tie your Slack into other systems, all sorts of potential doors can open. I
>>     have a IFTTT recipe to post to a SDPHP Slack channel every time SDPHP is
>>     mentioned on Twitter. Again, you can accomplish similar things with IRC
>>     using bots, but we are talking the Slack approach is just simpler
>>     - Mobile version. There are a couple nice IRC mobile client, list
>>     irccloud but nothing beats an application that is built by the same group
>>     managing the platform, Slack has a super smooth mobile client
>>     - I also prefer Slack notifications and being able to get emails on
>>     key words that I miss.
>>     - Slack keeps missed chatter when you log out without needing a
>>     bouncer or other dependency
>>     -
>>
>> So I can appreciate all those out there who are not interested in moving
>> away from IRC, and I don’t think we need to move away from IRC. But I do
>> encourage everyone to give Slack a try before making a decision. Try it for
>> awhile and lets see where the conversations organically end up taking
>> place.
>>
>> Just my $0.02
>> --
>> Eric
>>
>> twitter <http://twitter.com/#!/shocm>: @shocm
>> <http://twitter.com/#!/shocm> | @sdphp <https://twitter.com/sdphp> |
>> http://www.sdphp.org
>> *No trees were killed in sending this message, but a large number of
>> electrons were terribly inconvenienced.*
>>
>> On March 22, 2015 at 1:15:46 PM, Jeremy Lindblom ([email protected])
>> wrote:
>>
>> We've tried unsuccessfully for over 5 years to get our Seattle PHP group
>> to use IRC. Nobody wants to use it.
>>
>> Our mailing list is our main way for people to interact, and it is pretty
>> active.
>>
>> We use Slack, but only recently, and only for the organizers.
>>
>> -- Jeremy Lindblom
>> PHP Software Engineer, AWS
>>
>>> On Mar 22, 2015, at 12:42 PM, Lorna Mitchell <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> I'm really disappointed to see the user groups moving. For me, freenode
>> is
>>> a trusted home for open source projects and user group; the walled
>> garden
>>> feels like a really strange choice. I feel the same way about the
>> facebook
>>> groups, for all the same reasons. Not all of us are on facebook, or want
>>> to mix our personal lives into the professional spheres - and how will
>> new
>>> people meet new groups that require email invite to gain access to?
>>>
>>> I am sure nobody meant to exclude me but I'm not comfortable with
>>> interacting in these other ways. Hopefully most groups will still
>> maintain
>>> email announcement lists at least so that it will be possible to find
>> out
>>> about their meetings in other ways, but I do think we lost something
>> here.
>>> It's fine for groups of friends to hang out on slack or wherever but if
>>> we're a community, then we need to remain open to our future members who
>>> haven't stumbled across us yet.
>>>
>>> Just my tuppence (totally agree with the others feeling old for
>> resisting
>>> change!)
>>>
>>> Lorna
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 22 March 2015 at 18:47, Joe Ferguson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I share a lot of the same concerns as Ben. If the solution makes sense
>> to
>>>> allow the conversations to happen in IRC and Slack, I'm all for it.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I'm old school, but you can pry IRC from my cold dead hands.
>>>> Especially when there are great looking (and customizable) web based
>>>> clients such as https://www.irccloud.com
>>>>
>>>> Side note: I'm glad to see this conversation happen here. I've noticed
>> a
>>>> few conversations happen on twitter that I've missed because I've not
>> been
>>>> able to stop what I was doing to contribute. never mind the fact that
>> 140
>>>> characters is terrible for a conversation of any real depth.
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Andreas Heigl <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> Am 21.03.15 um 21:10 schrieb Ben Ramsey:
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Andreas Heigl <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> And that was (and still is) my response to the idea of a
>>>> usergroup-wide
>>>>>>> slack-team. But on the other hand, I'd rather have one place to have
>>>> to
>>>>>>> look for those not on IRC instead of hundreds. At least MY primary
>>>>>>> intention in creating that team was to catch all those not on IRC or
>>>>>>> already using slack as their main communication channel into ONE
>> place
>>>>>>> to look for them instead of them splitting up into hundreds of
>>>> different
>>>>>>> places.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That was the intention behind my emphasis of that team NOT being a
>>>>>>> replaement but an addition of the way we as a community can
>>>> communicate
>>>>>>> with one another.
>>>>>> Is it possible to somehow hook up Slack to the existing #phpgroups
>>>>> channel
>>>>>> on Freenode IRC so that we don't have a separation there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Ben
>>>>> Hi Ben (and everyone else).
>>>>>
>>>>> After a bit of searching and testing I've found a way to connect
>>>>> IRC-Channels with Slack-Channels so that things you post in the
>>>>> IRC-Channel are also posted to slack and vice-versa. You can have a
>> look
>>>>> at the solution at https://github.com/ekmartin/slack-irc or
>>>>> http://npm.taobao.org/package/slack-irc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I could implememt that to map the #phpgroups-Channel on IRC to the
>>>>> #default-Channel on slack if that can reach consensus.
>>>>>
>>>>> But that's a decission that has to be backed by more people than
>> myself
>>>> ;-)
>>>>> So input is very much welcome!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ,,,
>>>>> (o o)
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> - Joe Ferguson
>>>> MemphisTechnology.org
>>>> MemphisPHP.org
>>>> HACKMemphis.com
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Lorna Mitchell
>>> http://lornajane.net
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