Re: [UG-ADMINS] Slack-Team for Usergroups available

Well... I hooked up SDPHP with the slack -> irc bot, and the reactions are
mixed.  I am trying to support everyone, but I have people asking me to
remove it, when it was only live for 5 minutes.

We are leaving in place for now, and will see how it works for us.



On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Eric <[email protected]> wrote:

> We have a decent IRC for SDPHP with a good amount of people participating
> but we have a lot of people who struggle to understand how to get on to
> IRC, or how to register a handle. And don’t even get me started on trying
> to explain using a bouncer so you don’t miss discussion. I think we will
> always use IRC and I know I will personally continue using IRC because its
> just what I do.
>
> With all that said, I am a fan of Slack for a couple reasons
>
>
>    - I like how an organization can have multiple channels. This is nice
>    especially when you use it to coordinate efforts and events. Yeah you can
>    create multiple IRC channels buts it not he same as logging into one
>    organization and seeing which channels they have to offer. For groups like
>    the PHP-UG this makes a lot of sense.
>    - Easy to use. It just is.. I love IRC.. I use it from the command
>    line with IRSSI and I have a couple clients I like to use but end of the
>    day Slack is drop dead simple to configure and use.
>    - Integration .. With sites like IFTTT.com giving you the ability to
>    tie your Slack into other systems, all sorts of potential doors can open. I
>    have a IFTTT recipe to post to a SDPHP Slack channel every time SDPHP is
>    mentioned on Twitter. Again, you can accomplish similar things with IRC
>    using bots, but we are talking the Slack approach is just simpler
>    - Mobile version. There are a couple nice IRC mobile client, list
>    irccloud but nothing beats an application that is built by the same group
>    managing the platform, Slack has a super smooth mobile client
>    - I also prefer Slack notifications and being able to get emails on
>    key words that I miss.
>    - Slack keeps missed chatter when you log out without needing a
>    bouncer or other dependency
>    -
>
> So I can appreciate all those out there who are not interested in moving
> away from IRC, and I don’t think we need to move away from IRC. But I do
> encourage everyone to give Slack a try before making a decision. Try it for
> awhile and lets see where the conversations organically end up taking
> place.
>
> Just my $0.02
> --
> Eric
>
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> On March 22, 2015 at 1:15:46 PM, Jeremy Lindblom ([email protected])
> wrote:
>
> We've tried unsuccessfully for over 5 years to get our Seattle PHP group
> to use IRC. Nobody wants to use it.
>
> Our mailing list is our main way for people to interact, and it is pretty
> active.
>
> We use Slack, but only recently, and only for the organizers.
>
> -- Jeremy Lindblom
> PHP Software Engineer, AWS
>
> > On Mar 22, 2015, at 12:42 PM, Lorna Mitchell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm really disappointed to see the user groups moving. For me, freenode
> is
> > a trusted home for open source projects and user group; the walled
> garden
> > feels like a really strange choice. I feel the same way about the
> facebook
> > groups, for all the same reasons. Not all of us are on facebook, or want
> > to mix our personal lives into the professional spheres - and how will
> new
> > people meet new groups that require email invite to gain access to?
> >
> > I am sure nobody meant to exclude me but I'm not comfortable with
> > interacting in these other ways. Hopefully most groups will still
> maintain
> > email announcement lists at least so that it will be possible to find
> out
> > about their meetings in other ways, but I do think we lost something
> here.
> > It's fine for groups of friends to hang out on slack or wherever but if
> > we're a community, then we need to remain open to our future members who
> > haven't stumbled across us yet.
> >
> > Just my tuppence (totally agree with the others feeling old for
> resisting
> > change!)
> >
> > Lorna
> >
> >
> >> On 22 March 2015 at 18:47, Joe Ferguson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I share a lot of the same concerns as Ben. If the solution makes sense
> to
> >> allow the conversations to happen in IRC and Slack, I'm all for it.
> >>
> >> Maybe I'm old school, but you can pry IRC from my cold dead hands.
> >> Especially when there are great looking (and customizable) web based
> >> clients such as https://www.irccloud.com
> >>
> >> Side note: I'm glad to see this conversation happen here. I've noticed
> a
> >> few conversations happen on twitter that I've missed because I've not
> been
> >> able to stop what I was doing to contribute. never mind the fact that
> 140
> >> characters is terrible for a conversation of any real depth.
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Andreas Heigl <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Am 21.03.15 um 21:10 schrieb Ben Ramsey:
> >>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Andreas Heigl <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And that was (and still is) my response to the idea of a
> >> usergroup-wide
> >>>>> slack-team. But on the other hand, I'd rather have one place to have
> >> to
> >>>>> look for those not on IRC instead of hundreds. At least MY primary
> >>>>> intention in creating that team was to catch all those not on IRC or
> >>>>> already using slack as their main communication channel into ONE
> place
> >>>>> to look for them instead of them splitting up into hundreds of
> >> different
> >>>>> places.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That was the intention behind my emphasis of that team NOT being a
> >>>>> replaement but an addition of the way we as a community can
> >> communicate
> >>>>> with one another.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is it possible to somehow hook up Slack to the existing #phpgroups
> >>> channel
> >>>> on Freenode IRC so that we don't have a separation there?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Ben
> >>> Hi Ben (and everyone else).
> >>>
> >>> After a bit of searching and testing I've found a way to connect
> >>> IRC-Channels with Slack-Channels so that things you post in the
> >>> IRC-Channel are also posted to slack and vice-versa. You can have a
> look
> >>> at the solution at https://github.com/ekmartin/slack-irc or
> >>> http://npm.taobao.org/package/slack-irc.
> >>>
> >>> I could implememt that to map the #phpgroups-Channel on IRC to the
> >>> #default-Channel on slack if that can reach consensus.
> >>>
> >>> But that's a decission that has to be backed by more people than
> myself
> >> ;-)
> >>>
> >>> So input is very much welcome!
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> Andreas
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> - Joe Ferguson
> >> MemphisTechnology.org
> >> MemphisPHP.org
> >> HACKMemphis.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Lorna Mitchell
> > http://lornajane.net
>
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