Re: [UG-ADMINS] Karma System

I love all the idea and members would probably work to earn points but I
always believe that joining UG is a free will. And being active in the
group is also a choice. For me, I would rather have few members that is
willing to contribute in the group because they like what they are doing,
not having a huge number of members joining because they want to earn or
get something. In my opinion, joining UG should be fun and not a
competition. Just an opinion. :)

Regards,
Jun

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Elizabeth Tucker Long <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Paulo,
>     Perhaps you could reset the points every six months or every year. If
> point values are reset periodically, that will prevent less-active
> long-standing members from having more points than more-active newer
> members (like in the example in my previous post).
>     A few other questions I am wondering about:
>
> 1. Would you remove people from leadership/management roles if their
> points drop below a certain point? Like in the Rafael example, if he had
> gained enough points to be the Facebook manager, but then moved to
> Amsterdam so his points began to lapse, would he at some point lose his
> Facebook manager role?
>
> 2. If the point of this is to fill leadership positions and worker
> positions, wouldn't it be easier to just ask for volunteers? (Just to make
> sure my tone here is clear, I am honestly wanting to know this because I'm
> wanting to better understand the problems that the gamification system is
> solving.)
>
> Thanks,
> Beth
>
>
>
>
> On 4/27/15 4:56 PM, Paulo Eduardo wrote:
>
>> Hi Beth,
>>
>> I undertand your point, i also have a little afraid that the gamification
>> can create and unhealthy enviroment with people fighting for leadership in
>> the ranking. But that's the point of start this discussion try to find the
>> correct way to avoid this scenario and incentivate the participation on
>> the
>> user group. The first thing i have to say about that is that not at all
>> someone who does not frequently participate on the user group should be
>> put
>> aside in any way, at least at PHPSP everyone can spread their voice in any
>> subject, we are always open for suggestions and participation from the
>> most
>> new member of the communitie to the most old one.
>>
>> The point is that some decision should be make by a smaller group, we
>> can't
>> wait for the votes of everyone to make an emergency decision, we need also
>> to give responsabilities to some member to not give a lot of work to just
>> one. For example, today we have a group and a page on facebook, a group on
>> meetup, a twitter account, a group and a organization on linkedin, many
>> mailing channels, an organization and a lot of repositories on github, we
>> throw a feel events every month, and we need the effort and participation
>> of people to organize this things. Who would manage the facebbok page for
>> example? we can't give administrative rights to everyone, it would cause a
>> complete mess with everyone posting things and deleting things according
>> to
>> their criteria. But we can't alsdo let all of these channels just in one
>> hand, the person would get nuts if have to manage everything alone.
>>
>> So thats the poont of points, i even think in do pontuation by groups, for
>> example, facebook points will grant you administrative rights on facebbok
>> pages, if you post a lot on the blog you gain administrative rights on
>> wordpress system, and all this points together give you disccount on
>> events, something like that.
>>
>> And about new members catching up the old ones that's the idea of loosing
>> points if you is not active anymore. I didn't mean loose all of your point
>> if you spent a week without participate, i mean progressivelly loose point
>> with a lot of time (months at least) without any participation. Lets take
>> a
>> real example, Rafael Dohms (sorry man for make you an example) he is one
>> of
>> the founders of PHPSP, but he now lives in amsterdan for quite a while, a
>> lot of things has changed since he went, now imagine if he came back to
>> São
>> Paulo, i don't think he can participate in all the decision same way a
>> currently active meber anymore, mosthly because he will at least need some
>> time to understand how things are now, that's the point of loosing points
>> over time. That's doesn't mean he can't give suggestions or atendee at
>> some
>> event, these are rights of every member, even if meeting the group for the
>> first time.
>>
>> And just to be clear, my idea was to make all these variables configurable
>> for each UG, so everyone can adapt to the reallity of each user group.
>>
>> Atenciosamente
>> Paulo Eduardo
>> www.pauloeduardo.com
>> www.psyco.com.br
>>
>>
>>
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