Re: [UG-ADMINS] Dealing with a member issue

[email protected] (David Malouf) Wed, 20 Jan 2016 13:52:18 -0700
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Beth,

As a sincere and devoted follower of Jesus, I'd like to say two things to
you:
1) I'm sorry this guy is doing this.  Perhaps he's pretty excited about
Jesus, but this is still not okay.  Disrespect towards leadership of a
group like yours is definitely not in line with the heart, intent, or
statements of Jesus (nor the rest of the Christian Bible).
  2) Go ahead and kick him out of the group, as he stated that this is a
viable option.  You'll only be hurting your group - both now and long term
- if you let him stay.  I fully get not wanting to ask someone to leave,
but then the words of Spock (which actually come indirectly from the
Christian Bible!) come to mind, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs
of the few/one."

A suggestion: write up a code-of-conduct for your group.  Feel free to
contact Tessa at the Seattle PHP Meetup/Users Group - she's great and is
also in the middle of redoing/rethinking their code-of-conduct (good
timing).

Lastly: I've run into situations like yours (religious issues, threats of
harm, etc.) mainly when someone has stopped taking medication for mental
health.  Interestingly, for me, I was able to ask them if they were on meds
and had stopped taking them... every time the person answered "yes" to
both.  Perhaps it's worth asking?

My two cents,
David

On Jan 20, 2016 1:32 PM, "Beth Tucker Long" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> We have a member who just started coming to our conference and user group
meetings. At the conference, he consistently cornered people to talk to
them about Jesus. He has started doing it at the meetings too. We have
asked him to stop and explained that this is not an appropriate venue for
these discussions and that the discussions need to stay PHP-focused. He has
replied that he cannot stop talking about Jesus, and that if we want him to
stop, we'll have to kick him out of the group. We responded with a firm
response clarifying that our group is not the appropriate venue for his
preaching and that discussions must stay on topic. We did not say he was
banned from the group. He has not taken the hint and has now tried
contacting the group leadership through the conference website (he
apparently doesn't realize that we are the same people) asking for a
face-to-face meeting to discuss these issues.
>
> Has anyone dealt with anything like this in their group? We do not want
this to get ugly as we are a small group and this person has not caused
issues in the past, so this is a new thing that started recently (in
November). Any advice?
> Thanks,
> Beth
>
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