Re: [UG-ADMINS] What about making this list public on https://www.mail-archive.com/

I definitely think we should vote on this, and we should keep the vote 
open for at least 24 hours so everyone in various timezones has a chance 
to see this. This is a big shift, and while it's a shift I completely 
agree with, I feel that big shifts in policy/group structure deserve 
some time to process and vote.
Beth


On 1/29/16 11:09 AM, James Titcumb wrote:
> Agreed, I think this would be very useful for organisers :)
>
> On 29 January 2016 at 17:03, Ben Ramsey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Cal, I think it's worth opening up another thread and at least discussing.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Jonathan Sundquist <[email protected]
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Based on Beth's concerns. Yes I think it is worth a vote on if we should
>>> move to a more private communication.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:00 AM Cal Evans <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Should we take a vote?
>>>> Move to Private Google Group
>>>> Stay where we are and open the archive
>>>>
>>>> THIS IS NOT A VOTING THREAD! I'm just asking.
>>>>
>>>> =C=
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Beth Tucker Long <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I didn't realize these messages were all public. I recommend we make
>>> this
>>>>> list private for members only as many of the topics that user group
>>>> leaders
>>>>> may need to discuss should not be public matters, and I think the
>> list
>>>> will
>>>>> be more beneficial if members feel they can ask tough questions as
>>> there
>>>> is
>>>>> really no other place for us to ask the tough questions.
>>>>> Beth
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/29/16 10:45 AM, Ben Ramsey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This list is currently public here: http://news.php.net/ug.admins
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Ben
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Joe Ferguson <[email protected]
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Invite only Google group would likely be a good solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      -
>>>>>>      Joe Ferguson
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      > On Jan 29, 2016, at 10:42, Rogerio Prado de Jesus
>>>>>>      <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>      > I find out right now "a kind of" public archive in php.net
>>>>>>      <http://php.net> itself,
>>>>>>      > http://news.php.net/ug.admins , but mail-archive, as Ben
>> said,
>>>>>>      is much
>>>>>>      > easier to browse/search as is, with no need to move it from
>>>>>>      php.net <http://php.net>
>>>>>>      > immediately.
>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>      > Cal, could you take a look at the requirements to publish in
>>>>>>      mail-archive
>>>>>>      > for now? https://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#newlist (Sorry
>>>>>>      bother you, I
>>>>>>      > really don't know who are the current admins of this list.
>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>      > See ya
>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>      > Rogerio
>>>>>>      > Evangelist at PHPSP
>>>>>>      > @RogerioPradoJ
>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>      >> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 2:41 PM Cal Evans <[email protected]
>>>>>>      <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>      >>
>>>>>>      >> You know Beth, that is an excellent point. I would still like
>>>>>>      to get it off
>>>>>>      >> of php.net <http://php.net> but yes, keeping it closed is
>>>>>>      probably a good idea.
>>>>>>      >>
>>>>>>      >> Cheers!
>>>>>>      >> =C=
>>>>>>      >>
>>>>>>      >> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Beth Tucker Long <
>>>>>>      >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>>      >> wrote:
>>>>>>      >>
>>>>>>      >>> I agree that it would be nice to have an easier search for
>>>>>>      archives for
>>>>>>      >>> this list, but I'm not sure it's a great idea to make it
>>>>>>      public. For
>>>>>>      >>> instance, the member issue I brought up recently isn't
>> really
>>>>>>      a good
>>>>>>      >> thing
>>>>>>      >>> to have on a publicly available website. I felt comfortable
>>>>>>      bringing this
>>>>>>      >>> up here because it is not a public group, so the affected
>>>>>>      parties would
>>>>>>      >> not
>>>>>>      >>> be privy to the information discussed about them here.
>>>>>>      >>> Beth
>>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>>      >>>> On 1/29/16 10:26 AM, Ben Ramsey wrote:
>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>      >>>> There's been some discussion of moving this list off to
>>>>>>      something more
>>>>>>      >>>> user-friendly, like Google Groups.
>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>      >>>> That said, I think getting the messages into an easier to
>>>>>>      search/browse
>>>>>>      >>>> format would be great.
>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>      >>>> -Ben
>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>      >>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Rogerio Prado de Jesus <
>>>>>>      >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>      >>>> Hello, everyone, here's Rogerio from PHPSP (São Paulo,
>>>>>>      Brazil, user
>>>>>>      >> group,
>>>>>>      >>>>> http://phpsp.org.br).
>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>      >>>>> What do you guys think of making this list public on
>>>>>>      >>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/?
>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>      >>>>> Some of php mailings lists are already there
>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=all&q=lists.php.net&x=0&y=0
>>> .
>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>      >>>>> But only the administrator of this list can include
>>>>>>      [UG-ADMINS] there
>>>>>>      >>>>> (the
>>>>>>      >>>>> reasons are said in:
>>>>>>      https://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#newlist)
>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>      >>>>> Dear admins of this ug-admins list :-) , lets do it?
>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>      >>>>> See ya!
>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>      >>>>> Rogerio
>>>>>>      >>>>> Evangelist at PHPSP
>>>>>>      >>>>> @RogerioPradoJ
>>>>>>      >>> --
>>>>>>      >>> Beth Tucker Long
>>>>>>      >>> Treeline Design, LLC
>>>>>>      >>> 807 Arbor Vitae Place
>>>>>>      >>> Verona, WI 53593
>>>>>>      >>> 608-770-6677 <tel:608-770-6677>
>>>>>>      >>> http://www.TreelineDesign.com
>>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>>      >>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>> Beth Tucker Long
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>>>>> 807 Arbor Vitae Place
>>>>> Verona, WI 53593
>>>>> 608-770-6677
>>>>> http://www.TreelineDesign.com
>>>>>
>>>>>

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Verona, WI 53593
608-770-6677
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