Re: [UG-ADMINS] What about making this list public on https://www.mail-archive.com/

[email protected] (Adam Culp) Fri, 29 Jan 2016 12:14:09 -0500
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24 hours is a very narrow window. The PHP-FIG has a 2 week window and 
even that makes it hard for folks who are busy. #life

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On 01/29/2016 12:12 PM, Beth Tucker Long wrote:
> I definitely think we should vote on this, and we should keep the vote 
> open for at least 24 hours so everyone in various timezones has a 
> chance to see this. This is a big shift, and while it's a shift I 
> completely agree with, I feel that big shifts in policy/group 
> structure deserve some time to process and vote.
> Beth
>
>
> On 1/29/16 11:09 AM, James Titcumb wrote:
>> Agreed, I think this would be very useful for organisers :)
>>
>> On 29 January 2016 at 17:03, Ben Ramsey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Cal, I think it's worth opening up another thread and at least 
>>> discussing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Jonathan Sundquist 
>>> <[email protected]
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Based on Beth's concerns. Yes I think it is worth a vote on if we 
>>>> should
>>>> move to a more private communication.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:00 AM Cal Evans <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Should we take a vote?
>>>>> Move to Private Google Group
>>>>> Stay where we are and open the archive
>>>>>
>>>>> THIS IS NOT A VOTING THREAD! I'm just asking.
>>>>>
>>>>> =C=
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Beth Tucker Long <
>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't realize these messages were all public. I recommend we make
>>>> this
>>>>>> list private for members only as many of the topics that user group
>>>>> leaders
>>>>>> may need to discuss should not be public matters, and I think the
>>> list
>>>>> will
>>>>>> be more beneficial if members feel they can ask tough questions as
>>>> there
>>>>> is
>>>>>> really no other place for us to ask the tough questions.
>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/29/16 10:45 AM, Ben Ramsey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This list is currently public here: http://news.php.net/ug.admins
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Ben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Joe Ferguson <[email protected]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Invite only Google group would likely be a good solution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      -
>>>>>>>      Joe Ferguson
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      > On Jan 29, 2016, at 10:42, Rogerio Prado de Jesus
>>>>>>>      <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      > I find out right now "a kind of" public archive in php.net
>>>>>>>      <http://php.net> itself,
>>>>>>>      > http://news.php.net/ug.admins , but mail-archive, as Ben
>>> said,
>>>>>>>      is much
>>>>>>>      > easier to browse/search as is, with no need to move it from
>>>>>>>      php.net <http://php.net>
>>>>>>>      > immediately.
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      > Cal, could you take a look at the requirements to publish in
>>>>>>>      mail-archive
>>>>>>>      > for now? https://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#newlist 
>>>>>>> (Sorry
>>>>>>>      bother you, I
>>>>>>>      > really don't know who are the current admins of this list.
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      > See ya
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      > Rogerio
>>>>>>>      > Evangelist at PHPSP
>>>>>>>      > @RogerioPradoJ
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      >> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 2:41 PM Cal Evans <[email protected]
>>>>>>>      <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>      >>
>>>>>>>      >> You know Beth, that is an excellent point. I would still 
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>      to get it off
>>>>>>>      >> of php.net <http://php.net> but yes, keeping it closed is
>>>>>>>      probably a good idea.
>>>>>>>      >>
>>>>>>>      >> Cheers!
>>>>>>>      >> =C=
>>>>>>>      >>
>>>>>>>      >> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Beth Tucker Long <
>>>>>>>      >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>>>      >> wrote:
>>>>>>>      >>
>>>>>>>      >>> I agree that it would be nice to have an easier search for
>>>>>>>      archives for
>>>>>>>      >>> this list, but I'm not sure it's a great idea to make it
>>>>>>>      public. For
>>>>>>>      >>> instance, the member issue I brought up recently isn't
>>> really
>>>>>>>      a good
>>>>>>>      >> thing
>>>>>>>      >>> to have on a publicly available website. I felt 
>>>>>>> comfortable
>>>>>>>      bringing this
>>>>>>>      >>> up here because it is not a public group, so the affected
>>>>>>>      parties would
>>>>>>>      >> not
>>>>>>>      >>> be privy to the information discussed about them here.
>>>>>>>      >>> Beth
>>>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>>>      >>>> On 1/29/16 10:26 AM, Ben Ramsey wrote:
>>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>> There's been some discussion of moving this list off to
>>>>>>>      something more
>>>>>>>      >>>> user-friendly, like Google Groups.
>>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>> That said, I think getting the messages into an easier to
>>>>>>>      search/browse
>>>>>>>      >>>> format would be great.
>>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>> -Ben
>>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Rogerio Prado de 
>>>>>>> Jesus <
>>>>>>>      >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>> Hello, everyone, here's Rogerio from PHPSP (São Paulo,
>>>>>>>      Brazil, user
>>>>>>>      >> group,
>>>>>>>      >>>>> http://phpsp.org.br).
>>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>>> What do you guys think of making this list public on
>>>>>>>      >>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/?
>>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>>> Some of php mailings lists are already there
>>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=all&q=lists.php.net&x=0&y=0
>>>> .
>>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>>> But only the administrator of this list can include
>>>>>>>      [UG-ADMINS] there
>>>>>>>      >>>>> (the
>>>>>>>      >>>>> reasons are said in:
>>>>>>>      https://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#newlist)
>>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>>> Dear admins of this ug-admins list :-) , lets do it?
>>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>>> See ya!
>>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>>> Rogerio
>>>>>>>      >>>>> Evangelist at PHPSP
>>>>>>>      >>>>> @RogerioPradoJ
>>>>>>>      >>> --
>>>>>>>      >>> Beth Tucker Long
>>>>>>>      >>> Treeline Design, LLC
>>>>>>>      >>> 807 Arbor Vitae Place
>>>>>>>      >>> Verona, WI 53593
>>>>>>>      >>> 608-770-6677 <tel:608-770-6677>
>>>>>>>      >>> http://www.TreelineDesign.com
>>>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>>>      >>> --
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>>>>>>>      >>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Beth Tucker Long
>>>>>> Treeline Design, LLC
>>>>>> 807 Arbor Vitae Place
>>>>>> Verona, WI 53593
>>>>>> 608-770-6677
>>>>>> http://www.TreelineDesign.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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