Re: [UG-ADMINS] What about making this list public on https://www.mail-archive.com/

I don't think the existence of the list needs to be private. As Ben 
mentioned, the wiki on php.net would be updated with the new information 
on how to join, so the information about the list would be just as 
public as it has always been, just the contents of the list discussions 
on the list would be private.
Beth


On 1/29/16 11:12 AM, Adam Culp wrote:
> One concern I would have is the ability for new organizers to find 
> this new private list, and registering for it. This list has always 
> been public and easy to find, up to now.
>
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> On 01/29/2016 12:09 PM, James Titcumb wrote:
>> Agreed, I think this would be very useful for organisers :)
>>
>> On 29 January 2016 at 17:03, Ben Ramsey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Cal, I think it's worth opening up another thread and at least 
>>> discussing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Jonathan Sundquist 
>>> <[email protected]
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Based on Beth's concerns. Yes I think it is worth a vote on if we 
>>>> should
>>>> move to a more private communication.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:00 AM Cal Evans <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Should we take a vote?
>>>>> Move to Private Google Group
>>>>> Stay where we are and open the archive
>>>>>
>>>>> THIS IS NOT A VOTING THREAD! I'm just asking.
>>>>>
>>>>> =C=
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Beth Tucker Long <
>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't realize these messages were all public. I recommend we make
>>>> this
>>>>>> list private for members only as many of the topics that user group
>>>>> leaders
>>>>>> may need to discuss should not be public matters, and I think the
>>> list
>>>>> will
>>>>>> be more beneficial if members feel they can ask tough questions as
>>>> there
>>>>> is
>>>>>> really no other place for us to ask the tough questions.
>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/29/16 10:45 AM, Ben Ramsey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This list is currently public here: http://news.php.net/ug.admins
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Ben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Joe Ferguson <[email protected]
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Invite only Google group would likely be a good solution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      -
>>>>>>>      Joe Ferguson
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      > On Jan 29, 2016, at 10:42, Rogerio Prado de Jesus
>>>>>>>      <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      > I find out right now "a kind of" public archive in php.net
>>>>>>>      <http://php.net> itself,
>>>>>>>      > http://news.php.net/ug.admins , but mail-archive, as Ben
>>> said,
>>>>>>>      is much
>>>>>>>      > easier to browse/search as is, with no need to move it from
>>>>>>>      php.net <http://php.net>
>>>>>>>      > immediately.
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      > Cal, could you take a look at the requirements to publish in
>>>>>>>      mail-archive
>>>>>>>      > for now? https://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#newlist 
>>>>>>> (Sorry
>>>>>>>      bother you, I
>>>>>>>      > really don't know who are the current admins of this list.
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      > See ya
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      > Rogerio
>>>>>>>      > Evangelist at PHPSP
>>>>>>>      > @RogerioPradoJ
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      >> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 2:41 PM Cal Evans <[email protected]
>>>>>>>      <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>      >>
>>>>>>>      >> You know Beth, that is an excellent point. I would still 
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>      to get it off
>>>>>>>      >> of php.net <http://php.net> but yes, keeping it closed is
>>>>>>>      probably a good idea.
>>>>>>>      >>
>>>>>>>      >> Cheers!
>>>>>>>      >> =C=
>>>>>>>      >>
>>>>>>>      >> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Beth Tucker Long <
>>>>>>>      >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>>>>      >> wrote:
>>>>>>>      >>
>>>>>>>      >>> I agree that it would be nice to have an easier search for
>>>>>>>      archives for
>>>>>>>      >>> this list, but I'm not sure it's a great idea to make it
>>>>>>>      public. For
>>>>>>>      >>> instance, the member issue I brought up recently isn't
>>> really
>>>>>>>      a good
>>>>>>>      >> thing
>>>>>>>      >>> to have on a publicly available website. I felt 
>>>>>>> comfortable
>>>>>>>      bringing this
>>>>>>>      >>> up here because it is not a public group, so the affected
>>>>>>>      parties would
>>>>>>>      >> not
>>>>>>>      >>> be privy to the information discussed about them here.
>>>>>>>      >>> Beth
>>>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>>>      >>>> On 1/29/16 10:26 AM, Ben Ramsey wrote:
>>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>> There's been some discussion of moving this list off to
>>>>>>>      something more
>>>>>>>      >>>> user-friendly, like Google Groups.
>>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>> That said, I think getting the messages into an easier to
>>>>>>>      search/browse
>>>>>>>      >>>> format would be great.
>>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>> -Ben
>>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Rogerio Prado de 
>>>>>>> Jesus <
>>>>>>>      >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>      >>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>> Hello, everyone, here's Rogerio from PHPSP (São Paulo,
>>>>>>>      Brazil, user
>>>>>>>      >> group,
>>>>>>>      >>>>> http://phpsp.org.br).
>>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>>> What do you guys think of making this list public on
>>>>>>>      >>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/?
>>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>>> Some of php mailings lists are already there
>>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=all&q=lists.php.net&x=0&y=0
>>>> .
>>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>>> But only the administrator of this list can include
>>>>>>>      [UG-ADMINS] there
>>>>>>>      >>>>> (the
>>>>>>>      >>>>> reasons are said in:
>>>>>>>      https://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#newlist)
>>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>>> Dear admins of this ug-admins list :-) , lets do it?
>>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>>> See ya!
>>>>>>>      >>>>>
>>>>>>>      >>>>> Rogerio
>>>>>>>      >>>>> Evangelist at PHPSP
>>>>>>>      >>>>> @RogerioPradoJ
>>>>>>>      >>> --
>>>>>>>      >>> Beth Tucker Long
>>>>>>>      >>> Treeline Design, LLC
>>>>>>>      >>> 807 Arbor Vitae Place
>>>>>>>      >>> Verona, WI 53593
>>>>>>>      >>> 608-770-6677 <tel:608-770-6677>
>>>>>>>      >>> http://www.TreelineDesign.com
>>>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>>>      >>>
>>>>>>>      >>> --
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>>>>>>>      >>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Beth Tucker Long
>>>>>> Treeline Design, LLC
>>>>>> 807 Arbor Vitae Place
>>>>>> Verona, WI 53593
>>>>>> 608-770-6677
>>>>>> http://www.TreelineDesign.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>
>

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Beth Tucker Long
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