Re: [UG-ADMINS] [VOTE] Move to a private life off of php.net

From my understanding of the previous discussion, we would not restrict membership to the list other than to, maybe, ask which user group they are an organizer for. Anyone could essentially join the list and see the archives, but they would not show up in publicly available searches, like Google, and they would not be available to the general public just browsing or searching on php.net. 

As for the suggestion to make the mailing list membership public, I'm not comfortable with this unless it is done in such a way that all of our contact information is not harvestable. I am also very hesitant to make it too easy to contact other members off-list or to encourage people to contact each other off-list. 

On that topic, if we decide to choose a new tool set for this group, I would like something that routes all communication through the mailing list and obfuscates our personal addresses a bit. This helps keep all discussions in front of the group and helps maintain privacy for people who may not want their personal email addresses made public. 

Beth


Beth Tucker Long
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> On Jan 30, 2016, at 14:29, Eric <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I am on the fence with this. Where I understand the desire to have a private channel and people feeling more at ease opening discussing sensitive topics, at the same time, the Open Source in me says, ‘No, for better or worse we air it all out. We share and build a stronger community’ Complete transparency. Let everyone know all the issues we work on addressing, how we address them, and how much we all care. 
> 
> My other concern would be vetting of the private list if we went that way. I do think, at very less, the list of the members of the private group should be public. Then we can police it a little ourselves making sure admin are not missed, and people trying to get on the list have several avenues of contact they can reach out to with questions. 
> 
> I am holding off on any voting, for now, to see if there are any more opinions on the topic but will place a vote by the end of the day tomorrow. 
> 
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> Eric
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>> On January 30, 2016 at 10:25:43 AM, Jonathan Sundquist ([email protected]) wrote:
>> 
>> I am +1 for making the list more private. 
>> 
>> Can we consider those that are +0 as a -1 since they show concerns and are 
>> not fully in favor of it? 
>> 
>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016, 12:11 PM Ben Ramsey <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> 
>> > -1 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > > On Jan 30, 2016, at 02:48, Cal Evans <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> > > 
>> > > Please cast your vote +1 or -1 to move off of php.net to a private (but 
>> > not 
>> > > secret) list. 
>> > > 
>> > > Voting will remain open until Feb 6th. 
>> > > 
>> > > I will moderate the vote and tally the votes. Beth, if she will, will 
>> > > double check my math and certify the vote. 
>> > > 
>> > > This is a voting thread only. If you want to discuss use the other 
>> > thread. 
>> > > 
>> > > Cheers! 
>> > > =C= 
>> > 
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