Re: Nature of this list

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On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Shlomi Fish <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Brian, and all.
>
> Well, there's a difference between repressing emotion (which is saying "No!
> I
> am not feeling this way now") and realising you're feeling something and
> acting in a rational manner in accordance or opposite the emotion. I many
> times was frustrated at open source software applications having annoying
> bugs
> and thought with many F-words and curse words, but when phrasing the bug
> report, I phrased it politely, rationally, and factually (not always
> though,
> of course).
>
> Emotions are nature's guidelines, and should not be repressed, and one
> should
> not feel guilty for feeling anything (Sermon on the Mount/etc. put aside),
> including not a desire for murder and mayhem. But acting based on these
> emotions by words or deed may not be a good idea.
>

You could have phrased yourself more calmly.


Hey Shlomi.

What part of my reply, exactly, was not calm or rational? "Profanity is
expression, which is both trivial and all-important; it's a flavor of words,
like poetry or song. They all have impact in their own way, but we should no
more condemn an obscenity shouted in frustration than we would poetry
whispered in love." As you imply, there's a time and place for every kind of
language. I wouldn't be screaming profanity in a business meeting (although
my last PM was extremely fond of this...) but frankly, I thought better of
the list - I assumed we were all adults and wouldn't be getting our knickers
in a twist over a couple of words.

(If I wasn't calm, rather than addressing your mail, I'd have some strong
words to say about you and a horse)

In any case, I still await some links to this rude behavior towards a
beginner.

Also, uh, why wouldn't I read your entire message..?

Brian.

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<div>On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Shlomi Fish <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Brian, and all.<br>
<br>Well, there&#39;s a difference between repressing emotion (which is say=
ing &quot;No! I<br>
am not feeling this way now&quot;) and realising you&#39;re feeling somethi=
ng and<br>
acting in a rational manner in accordance or opposite the emotion. I many<b=
r>
times was frustrated at open source software applications having annoying b=
ugs<br>
and thought with many F-words and curse words, but when phrasing the bug<br=
>
report, I phrased it politely, rationally, and factually (not always though=
,<br>
of course).<br>
<br>
Emotions are nature&#39;s guidelines, and should not be repressed, and one =
should<br>
not feel guilty for feeling anything (Sermon on the Mount/etc. put aside),<=
br>
including not a desire for murder and mayhem. But acting based on these<br>
emotions by words or deed may not be a good idea.<br>
=A0</blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">You could have phrased yours=
elf more calmly.=A0</blockquote><div>
<div><br></div><div>Hey Shlomi.<br></div><div><br></div><div>What part of m=
y reply, exactly, was not calm or rational? &quot;Profanity is expression, =
which is both trivial and all-important; it&#39;s a flavor of words, like p=
oetry or song. They all have impact in their own way, but we should no more=
 condemn an obscenity shouted in frustration than we would poetry whispered=
 in love.&quot; As you imply, there&#39;s a time and place for every kind o=
f language. I wouldn&#39;t be screaming profanity in a business meeting (al=
though my last PM was extremely fond of this...) but frankly, I thought bet=
ter of the list - I assumed we were all adults and wouldn&#39;t be getting =
our knickers in a twist over a couple of words.</div>
</div><div><br></div><div>(If I wasn&#39;t calm, rather than addressing you=
r mail, I&#39;d have some strong words to say about you and a horse)</div><=
div>=A0</div><div>In any case, I still await some links to this rude behavi=
or towards a beginner.</div>
<div><br></div><div>
<div>Also, uh, why wouldn&#39;t I read your entire message..?</div><div><br=
></div><div>Brian.</div><div><br></div></div></div>

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