Re: Guidance on the implications of the Lyon Amendment

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On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 9:45=E2=80=AFPM Todd Rinaldo <todd.rinaldo@webpros.=
com>
wrote:

>  *From: *Leon Timmermans <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Thursday, July 25, 2024 at 2:31=E2=80=AFPM
> *To: *Todd Rinaldo <[email protected]>
> *Cc: *Philippe Bruhat (BooK) <[email protected]>, Russ Allbery <
> [email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: Guidance on the implications of the Lyon Amendment
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 8:24=E2=80=AFPM Todd Rinaldo <todd.rinaldo@webpro=
s.com>
> wrote:
>
> I continue to wonder if there=E2=80=99s value in setting this up. Who nee=
ds 5.6 or
> 5.8, etc. so desperately that we need to maintain this stream? How do we
> know when they don=E2=80=99t need it?
>
>
>
> >Module::Build::Tiny hasn't been installable on a clean 5.8 for over a
> year (because CPAN::Meta::Requirements now requires 5.10) and I >didn't g=
et
> any emails/tickets about it; so it doesn't appear to be very alive. I'm
> expecting 5.10 to be very different though (because RHEL >6).
>
>
>
> RHEL 6 and 7 are VERY dead. People are actively scrambling to get off
> them. I would expect that things like updating from CPAN are very much of=
f
> people=E2=80=99s radar.
>

I wish that were true, but my most recent interaction with RHEL 6 was this
morning.

Leon

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 9:45=E2=80=AFPM T=
odd Rinaldo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">todd.rinaldo@we=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">=C2=A0</span><b><span=
 style=3D"color:black">From:
</span></b><span style=3D"color:black">Leon Timmermans &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, July 25, 2024 at 2:31</span><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">=E2=80=AF</span><span style=3D=
"color:black">PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Todd Rinaldo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>Philippe Bruhat (BooK) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;, Russ Allbery &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eag=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;, <a href=3D"mailto:=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">module-authors=
@perl.org</a>&gt;<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 8:24<span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">=E2=80=AF</span>PM Todd Rinaldo &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">todd.rinaldo@webpro=
s.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">I continue to wonder =
if there=E2=80=99s value in setting this up. Who needs 5.6 or 5.8, etc. so =
desperately that we need to maintain this stream? How do we
 know when they don=E2=80=99t need it?</span> <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt;Module::Build::Tiny hasn&#39;t been installable =
on a clean 5.8 for over a year (because CPAN::Meta::Requirements now requir=
es 5.10) and I &gt;didn&#39;t get any emails/tickets about it; so it doesn&=
#39;t appear to be very alive. I&#39;m expecting 5.10 to
 be very different though (because RHEL &gt;6).<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">RHEL 6 and 7 are VERY=
 dead. People are actively scrambling to get off them. I would expect that =
things like updating from CPAN are very much off people=E2=80=99s radar.<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p>
</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div=
><div>I wish that were true, but my most recent interaction with RHEL 6 was=
 this morning.</div><div><br></div><div>Leon<br></div></div></div>

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