Re: Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God

On 2026-08-23 15:18, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>>
>> On 2026-08-22 15:16, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2026-08-22 14:01, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2026-08-22 07:53, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2026-08-21 15:56, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-08-21 15:27, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2026-08-21 13:40, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Attila" wrote:  > "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Folks, if there is no plausible Darwinian pathway for our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> origins, then pure logic points us to Creation by a most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awesome and wonderful Creator. . .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The process is not yet known, that's all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For those who accept what science has already discovered, there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debate. They know that....,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Life comes only from previously existing life."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is > an established scientific law.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Look it up, its called, "The Law of Biogenesis"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Life comes only from previously existing life."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'A Common Misconception
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some creationists have argued that the law of biogenesis undermines
>>>>>>>>>>>> evolutionary theory and the theory that all life originated from
>>>>>>>>>>>> inorganic material billions of years ago. However, biogenesis simply
>>>>>>>>>>>> invalidates the theory of spontaneous generation?it speaks to what can
>>>>>>>>>>>> be accomplished in generational time spans, not over the course of
>>>>>>>>>>>> thousands of generations or millions of years.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.sciencing.com/theory-biogenesis-5419233/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          Accoring to whom?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All those who accept empirical science.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So that leaves you out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          You will have a lot of explaining to do when life is found on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exoplanets....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> God already told us about that..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens, God Himself that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> formed the earth and made it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He hath established it, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inhabited:"  ~ Isaiah 45:18
>>>>>>>>>>>> And where did your god come from?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alan tries again. Tell us where we came from.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You tell us where we came from and everyone you put "god", I'll put
>>>>>>>>>> universe.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I never claimed to know where we came from. The universe also came from
>>>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure you did. You said "god did it".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I said in context to "if there was a god". You know that and are trying to spin
>>>>>>> it again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You claimed that that there is a god and he created the universe, Cupcake.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't claim that. I said IF there were a God. Alan trying to shuffle out
>>>>> again.
>>>>
>>>> Nope. You explicitly said that god did it and justified with with the
>>>> inane idea that somehow matter requires a creator but a "god" doesn't.
>>>
>>> You are way off base spin boy. If there is a God then he did it. That was the
>>> original discussion. I also explained about dimensions. If there is a God then
>>> why would he tell us? I bet you think a God is some old guy with a big beard?
>>> In another dimension he/she/it could be anything.
>>
>> Mentioning the word "dimensions" doesn't explain anything.
> 
> Using one word out of the while paragraph is typical of you. You lose again.
>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't run from it now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I stand my ground. I choose to be open. There might be a God and there might
>>>>> not. Science hasn't proven anything yet. The God theory hasn't either. You
>>>>> don't really know.
>>>> Science has shown many, many things to be true.
>>>
>>> But not how it all started.
>>>>
>>>> Such as the existence of the cosmic background radiation.
>>>
>>> So? Where did this radiation come from? Radiation is energy.
>> You miss the point...
>>
>> ...which is kind of my point.
> 
> So you admit you made a claim you can't back up. Right?
Nope.

Look, your entire argument boils down to:

"I (personally) cannot understand how the universe came to be, and so 
there must be a god involved, and it's OK if I don't understand how he 
came to be...because he's a god and that's different."

It certainly spares you any need to think.