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On Thu, 31 May 2018 07:36:15 -0400, "Fred Maxwell _eac_moderator-2vyyaVqwwj2IwRZHo2/[email protected] [EAC]"
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>> On May 31, 2018, at 6:37 AM, Dave Brzeski & Jilly Paddock [email protected] [EAC] <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> As for how far the Accurate Rip Database is to be trusted, I suppose it really depends on how may people have submitted data for that disc. If its only the one, then it's very possible that theirs was the inaccurate one.
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>Agreed. But if even two submitted data that matched each other, its all but certain that the database entry can be trusted for that disc and track.
No argument here. I was remembering a CD I ripped quite recently. There wasn't a visible mark on it
& it wasn't old enough to be an example of the dreaded CD rot, where they simply deteriate & go
copper coloured. This particular disc ripped accurately, except for the very last track. I ran a
test & copy on 3 different drives on two computers & the CRC for test & copy in every case was
identical, so I'm guessing that's one where the only copy previously submitted wasn't accurate on
that track. Needless to say I submitted all my results to the databse, as i always do.
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>> On May 31, 2018, at 6:37 AM, Dave Brzeski & Jilly Paddock [email protected] [EAC] <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> If it sounds error free to you, then it is obviously good enough.
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>Nope. Not all errors are immediately identifiable as errors and not all audio chains are equal in their resolution. Something with errors can sound fine and another copy without errors can sound better. Something that sounded okay on $30 headphones plugged into your laptop can sound less than okay when auditioned on $300 headphones attached to a high performance DAC and headphone amp.
OK, let me amend what I said. If it sounds ok, to YOU, it's good enough for YOU, especially if you
don't ever forsee listening to your rips on high end equipment. You are the only judge of what is
acceptable to you.
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>> On May 31, 2018, at 6:37 AM, Dave Brzeski & Jilly Paddock [email protected] [EAC] <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> The only reason it wouldn't be would be if you were sharing your rips with fussy pirates who want all their music free, but insist on documented perfection.
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>If youre sharing rips, you are a pirate. Being a pirate who doesnt care about quality doesnt make it any better
Did I say it did? I was simply making the point that the only time anyone is likely to complain
about a rip that you did is if you share it, which is illegal. If you made it for your own use
(which is now theoretically illegal again in the UK, even if you do own the disc) you are the only
judge.
My CD trading was also in live recordings. I gave it up when I came to realise that I would never
live long enough to listen to all this stuff, and most of it lacked in quality due to the source,
not the ripping quality.
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>Most people here use EAC because they insist on documented perfection for music they rip from their own CDs. I am making archival copies of my CDs (that I paid for) in a lossless format. Some of my CDs are rare, out-of-print, audiophile pressings and some are showing signs of bit rot. I want to get the rip correct the first time, not discover after the CD is no longer readable that there was an error I didnt notice at first or that there might be an error that I cant check against the disc or another rip.
For my part, my ears aren't as good as they once were & the most vital piece of high-end hifi
equipment that I can't afford is the room it's set up in. Mine has an open plan staircase at the
back, lots of clutter & not enough room for floor standing speakers.
I love EAC because 99.999% of the time I get an accurate rip that I can trust. I will eventually
have to start parting with my CD collection for simple space reasons. My tastes are way too wide & I
can't move for them - I used to work in a record shop for 30 years, which gave me access to far too
much stuff. I swear I made a loss working there in the last couple of years due to all the stuff I
was bringing home. I'm now in the process of filling a 2GB hard drive (plus a matched backup, since
I'm not stupid) with HQ VBR0 mp3 copies of my music, because I honestly can't tell the difference &
I can easily find whatever I want to play on the computer (which has a good sound card & is
connected to a NAD amplifier & Mordaunt-Short speakers, if anyone is interested).
Dave
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