Re: [OSCOM] bylaws and organisational changes

Chalu Kim <[email protected]> Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:19:20 -0400
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Ross J. Reedstrom wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 05:25:19PM +0200, Martin B?hr wrote:
>   
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 03:09:51PM +0700, [email protected] wrote:
>>     
>>> I also think that paying for membership may be a bit too fast but
>>> we could make the paying members have right to vote, or other special
>>> privileges? this is the way we could consider moving to paying model
>>>       
>> i think this whole discussion is going to fast and not in the right
>> order. it is futile to talk about membership requirements, when there
>> is nothing yet that gives people a reason to join in the first place.
>>
>> we ought to focus on the goals first.
>> once we agree on some of the goals, we will see what kind of membership
>> we are looking for. and then, we can take a look at how we can attract
>> this membership. and only at that stage we will be able to see what
>> requirements need to be set and what role dues can play in this.
>>
>> discussing dues at this point is simply out of place.
>>
>> don't skin the bear before you have caught it.
>>     
>
> Excellent points, Martin. I know that if I was a lead developer on a
> well known OSCMS, and some group I'd never heard of offered me (or my
> group) 'free membership', or 'invited' me to pay for a membership, my
> first question would be "Who are you, and what do I and my project get
> out of being a member?" Let's get the benefits of membership mapped out,
> then worry about the crowds beating down the door to join up.
>
>   
Well, we are not talking about just any organization but OSCOM which has 
been around a few years and a few conferences, right?

In order to have a way to sustain the organization and get people 
involved, it would be good to have several ways to contribute; money or 
time.   It is a question of chicken or egg. Without chicken, there is no 
egg.

You are right, benefits has to be there. That is what we need to think of.

OSCOM needs to be a bit entrepreneurial in creating benefits actual or 
perceived.  Hopefully, actual mostly

> Ross
>   


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Ross J. Reedstrom wrote:
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  <pre wrap="">On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 05:25:19PM +0200, Martin B?hr wrote:
  </pre>
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    <pre wrap="">On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 03:09:51PM +0700, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> wrote:
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      <pre wrap="">I also think that paying for membership may be a bit too fast but
we could make the paying members have right to vote, or other special
privileges? this is the way we could consider moving to paying model
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">i think this whole discussion is going to fast and not in the right
order. it is futile to talk about membership requirements, when there
is nothing yet that gives people a reason to join in the first place.

we ought to focus on the goals first.
once we agree on some of the goals, we will see what kind of membership
we are looking for. and then, we can take a look at how we can attract
this membership. and only at that stage we will be able to see what
requirements need to be set and what role dues can play in this.

discussing dues at this point is simply out of place.

don't skin the bear before you have caught it.
    </pre>
  </blockquote>
  <pre wrap=""><!---->
Excellent points, Martin. I know that if I was a lead developer on a
well known OSCMS, and some group I'd never heard of offered me (or my
group) 'free membership', or 'invited' me to pay for a membership, my
first question would be "Who are you, and what do I and my project get
out of being a member?" Let's get the benefits of membership mapped out,
then worry about the crowds beating down the door to join up.

  </pre>
</blockquote>
Well, we are not talking about just any organization but OSCOM which
has been around a few years and a few conferences, right?<br>
<br>
In order to have a way to sustain the organization and get people
involved, it would be good to have several ways to contribute; money or
time.&nbsp;&nbsp; It is a question of chicken or egg. Without chicken, there is
no egg.<br>
<br>
You are right, benefits has to be there. That is what we need to think
of.<br>
<br>
OSCOM needs to be a bit entrepreneurial in creating benefits actual or
perceived.&nbsp; Hopefully, actual mostly<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid20060925164342.GD21831@cooker" type="cite">
  <pre wrap="">Ross
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