Re: [Tiki-devel] Admin UI friendliness

+1

Le sam. 19 nov. 2022, 09:01, Dr. Sassafras <[email protected]> a écrit :

> Yup. I think a “show additional 11 advanced preferences” or something like
> that would be good. Google does something similar. It has a link to show
> all listings when it has hidden some. They display it at the bottom of the
> search results.
>
> Brendan
>
> On Nov 17, 2022, at 2:58 AM, Victor Emanouilov via TikiWiki-devel <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi Jean-Marc,
>
> Yes, this is also a quite nice improvement but I don't think it would have
> helped the person trying to setup API section with only basic filters
> turned on as he was not actually searching for a setting. Maybe we combine
> this idea with the one from Jonny about a message when no filters as shown
> in a section due to filtering?
>
> Regards,
> Victor
> On 11/17/22 1:40 AM, Jean-Marc Libs wrote:
>
> Hi Victor,
>
> I understand the logic of hiding Tiki's complexity to newcomers and I also
> agree that we lack a way of indicating to people who have been using a Tiki
> for some time that they should consider changing the filter.
> After all, they probably chose Tiki for its power.
>
> One way I have been thinking of after reading your post is: when people do
> a feature search in the admin panel, we could add an unobtrusive line which
> tells them that they only see the results for the basic features due to
> their configuration.
> With a helpful link to the filter.
> Since this would be shown for every feature search, it should be just a
> line of text which does take as much room as info boxes!
> Examples of what I have in mind  on top of the feature search (we need to
> come up with our own text):
> <image.png>
>
> Or like this after the feature search (which might be an empty search when
> searching in "basic" mode):
> <image.png>
>
> Would that help?
>
> Cheers,
> J-M
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 9:41 AM Victor Emanouilov via TikiWiki-devel <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have stumbled upon this before as well but new Tiki users find it
>> really hard to enable advanced settings when they are completely unaware of
>> the fact that we hide them by default in Admin UI. Here's a recent example
>> I had with someone new to TIki trying to enable the API:
>>
>>
>> There is no clue that they need to enable advanced preferences in the
>> small filter dropdown at the top left. Can we think of a more user-friendly
>> way to convey this filtering options? I personally have searched for a
>> setting for a few times while using Tiki and I am not even new to Tiki. Can
>> you think of any good ideas to make this more user friendly? Improving the
>> message on this page won't solve the issue as we have many such places in
>> Tiki admin where settings are hidden and someone might be looking for them.
>>
>> Maybe a one-time warning message at the top that some preferences are
>> hidden and they need to allow the corresponding filters to see? If they
>> close the message, it shouldn't show again to stop bothering user.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Victor
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