Re: Meeting in Linz

I think Tobias has some really good points and I second his idea not  
to build a complete new "interface" but how to improve the existing one.
I think my "comment" gave you the wrong impression - I really love  
working with ZMS and I'm always thinking about how to improve it. But  
still, we get a lot of "comments" about the ZMS that we could use to  
improve working with it.

I'll comment on it later again - too much work right now (all ZMS- 
based :-) )

But again, I'm interested in all of the points Tobias said and I could  
join the discussion about the centralized media-db as we've "built"  
one for a client that works quite good.

End of January is good.

Am 04.11.2009 um 10:55 schrieb Tobias Greitzke:

> Hello everybody,
>
> I developed a central menu to manage general site attributes like
> titles, descriptions and keywords, urls and title-tags, find out
> GooglePR for all Sub-Sites, Ranking for Keywords etc.. First it was  
> just
> focused on SEO but it turned out that it's also very handy to set  
> other
> parameters like Cache or Robot settings aso. By the way - it's
> completely programmed using the ZMS interface. Unfortunately it's not
> finished that's why I didn't publish it yet, but I would be pleased to
> give you a glimpse on it at the meeting if you are interested.
>
> So I absolutely disagree that it's difficult to program the ZMS
> interface - there is just no documentation about how to do it. I also
> got only good feedback about the general ZMS Application. Maybe it's
> design is not "nice&fresh" but you can change the theme to anything  
> you
> want. So I don't understand the trouble.
> Indeed there is room for improvement, but I absolutely disagree to  
> build
> a complete own solution. This will lead to two ZMS Versions witch
> wouldn't be very healthy for ZMS in general. Actually it's pretty easy
> to manipulate the ZMS interface - just take a look at the Teaser- 
> Container.
>
> To look at Typo3, Joomla and Wordpress as a samples for ZMS would be a
> step backwards. I'm using ZMS for over 7 years and I'm very convinced
> the ZMS was always ahead and still is. Please do not mistake shiny
> buttons and some AJAX magic for technological achievement.
>
> All the things that where mentioned in that discussion so far are
> completely possible with the actual ZMS Version. So what I suggest is,
> that the discussion should be more of how to make this information
> accessible to the public and to improve and involve the ZMS community
> into the development and documentation, so one can see and understand
> the magic of ZMS.
>
> I'm personally interested in a central Media-DB and media  
> functionality
> like image gallery's, mediaplayer's YouTube integration etc. There are
> some attempts out there already but there are a couple pros and cons
> that I would like to discuss in a larger group and see what others  
> think
> about that.
>
> As I'm also hosting a larger number of ZMS instances myself I'm very
> much interested in performance optimization, caching strategies aso.
>
>
> So my Agenda would look something like:
>
> 1) 1001 ZMS Websites - ZMS Performance and Caching Strategies
> 2) The dark magic of ZMS - Templating and interface manipulation
> 3) ZMS Multimedia-DB - Handling of Mediafiles in a central DB
> 4) Why Google likes ZMS and how to improve that
> 5) OpenSpace Session for Presentations of Your ZMS Solutions
>
> Last but not least we need to find a date! As I'm very busy right now
> and the end of the year is already very close so would suggest  
> January.
>
>
> I also would very much appreciate to see Hoffmann+Liebenberg  
> involved as
> I see no point in discussing ZMS development without them. Btw. I  
> admire
> their work and appreciate very much what they have done so far for all
> of us.
>
> I'm looking forward to meet all of you,
> Best Regards
>
> Tobias Greitzke
>
>
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> Stefan Seifert schrieb:
>> Hello fellow ZMS users and developers,
>>
>> so far I got seven responses to my question about setting up a  
>> meeting. As
>> some (or most) of those people have a rather long way to travel, we  
>> should try
>> to make the most out of it.
>>
>> To get this thing going it would be nice, if you could suggest some  
>> topics
>> that you'd be interested in hearing about or maybe can give some  
>> presentation
>> about.
>>
>> I think the most interesting thing we have to show is, how to  
>> create and
>> handle some 1000 websites with Zope/ZMS.
>>
>> So any suggestions?
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