Re: Gnome menu

Piñeiro <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.gnome.accessibility.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 08/25/2012 08:41 PM, meg ford wrote:
> Here is the documentation for the keyboard shortcuts for navigating
> the applications icons [1], although I I think that asking a person
> with a physical disability to hold down ctrl and alt while tabbing is
> not feasible. Maybe someone else knows of a better solution.
Well, Ctrl+Alt+Tab is the one used because it was the one used at GNOME
2. Anyway, there is a work in progress effort in order to define new
keyshortcuts for gnome-shell:

https://live.gnome.org/GnomeOS/Design/Whiteboards/KeyboardShortcuts

I suggested them some others, like direct access to the Dash and others.

BR

>
> Meg Ford
>
> [1]http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/shell-keyboard-shortcuts.html.en
>
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 1:11 PM, meg ford <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     The activities overview really doesn't work well for people with
>     physical disabilities. Using the mouse to choose an application
>     can be very tiring, and sometimes impossible for such users.
>     Typing the name of the application is also really difficult.
>     Looking here [1] I don't see a way to navigate the application
>     icons using the keyboard. Maybe that has been added and the
>     documentation hasn't been updated? 
>
>     There is a shell extension that provides a Gnome 2 style
>     applications menu [2]. I think this should be easier to use.
>
>     Meg Ford
>
>     [1] http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/shell-apps-open.html.en
>     [2] https://extensions.gnome.org/accounts/profile/gcampax
>
>
>     On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Dylan McCall
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         That's a shame about the accident. I'm glad that GNOME and
>         Debian have
>         worked for you until now.
>
>         The new menus _should_ be accessible. May you please explain what
>         about them isn't working out? I'm sure that would help to
>         improve the
>         implementation. As it is, adding a toggle between the two menu
>         layouts
>         is no simple task: with this menu redesign, the idea of
>         grouping menu
>         items under things like "Edit" and "View" is going to drift
>         away, so
>         even if the bits were in place it would be quite difficult to
>         change
>         it back (especially dynamically).
>
>         If I was to guess, the biggest problem for
>         keyboard-accessibility is
>         that the menus don't open with F10, so you have to reach them with
>         Tab. Is that the gist of the problem? That might be something to
>         mandate in the HIG (and maybe add at the toolkit level),
>         because it
>         _is_ quite surprising. Google Chrome, for example, is keyboard
>         accessible: its wrench menu can be opened with the usual mnemonics
>         (Alt+F or Alt+E). They forgot that F10 is the _real_ common
>         menu-opening shortcut, but they did try :)
>
>         If you haven't already found it, the keyboard shortcut to get the
>         application menu (beside Activities at the top left of the
>         screen) is
>         Super+F10. You can also use the left and right arrow keys to get
>         anywhere else on the top bar. Do you find that one works okay?
>
>         Thanks,
>
>         Dylan
>
>
>         On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 9:29 AM, surma <[email protected]
>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>         >
>         > I've been using debian since 27 March of 1996, before gnome
>         everything was quite crappy, but I started using gnome 11 June
>         2000, and linux turned easy. Then (2004/2005) I had a terrible
>         car accident, I got rammed, then I spent 6 months in coma,
>         which messed up my hands, so I can't use mouse, that's why I
>         prefer keyboard. Maake a place under gconf-editor where you
>         can choose the style of menu, so people can use either classic
>         or modern style.
>         >
>         > That's why I can't use mouse.
>         > http://www.hot.ee/surma/Surma_24.12.05.jpg
>         > I built this car myself ... and had an accident with it.
>         >
>         > This is what was left of my car.
>         > http://www.hot.ee/surma/katki.jpg
>         > Tanel
>         >
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