Re: New Hope for Y-Windows ?

Hi all,

I think it's fair and completly in consistent with the open source
philosophy to fork.  If some people think it will help to setup a new
Website, a new Maillinglist, etc., well go ahead.  We will see if this
will be effective.  But let me ask one question:  Is there a single
instance of a case where someone wrote a nice patch for y-windows, sent
it to Mark and he said:  Hey dude, I'm to lazy to merge it, go away!

I'm reading this list since the very beginning of the project and at
least I can't remember of such a case.  Therefore: If you ask me what
the real issue is I'll tell you that it is the fact that nobody is
writing code!  And no fancy website will ever change this.

	Titus


On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 06:55:04PM +0000, Robert Boehme wrote:
> Hello Ben, Brandon, Liam, William, Dustin and to all the others.
> 
> I'll try to answer all your replys in 1 Mail.
> 
> First of all, because of Mark very long absence i guess he isn't 
> interested in Y-Windows any longer.
> So it is a very goad approach by Dustin to make a new Source Tree along 
> with it's own Project Site.
> Dustin i really like what you are doing i alaready checked out a copy of 
> your branch for testing.
> Wiliam your archives are almost right.
> Some day in the last year Mark seems to be turnt away from Project.
> 
> I think we should do the following:
> Create a new WebSite with more recent and Up2Date Project Documentation.
> Create a new Branch with different Patch Level's and all of Dustin 
> Progress by now.
> Reanimate the old community to get more help with all the work.
> But the most important thing is a new Road Map dedicated to alle the 
> things left off by now.
> 
> It is very important to create a new stable release with a fixed Patch 
> level that way new developer's can easily check out a basic version of 
> Y- Windows.
> So it'll be easier for them deciding to participate.
> The Second thing is WebSite with better ways of Community communication.
> Something like a Forum would be more accurate than this Maillinglist.
> 
> Now to my Part.
> At this time i do not have much code that i can donate to the Project 
> but i can offer the following thinks.
> I own of 2 dedicated online server with +15Mbits connection more than 
> 1TB Traffic per month based on Debian.
> It think these 2 Server will be enough to host give the Project a new home.
> So i will create a new WebSite along with a Forum, Chats an all these 
> other crap needed for a community.
> The other thing which seems to be more important, is a guide of how to 
> compile, programm and use y-windows.
> Because i actually try to figure out the code myseld i'll write a Guide 
> for compiling and programming Y-windows in Dustin's current state. 
> Additionally i'll collect a new RoadMap in cooperation with all 
> interested developers.
> This will definitly help developers to coordinate the development of 
> Y-Windows.
> 
> I know that's a lot of much information for such a small mail so i 
> better came to an end.
> 
> Y- Windows is a community based project. So it needs all the help it can 
> get.
> A start would be if you all tell me what do you think about my plans or
> if have inspired you with an idea let me know!
> 
> In my next mail i'll handout a list of things todo.
> So if you then decide to step out of the dark an do something then
> just let me now and i will help you as much as i can.
> 
> 
> Greets,
> Robert.
> 
>