Re: Re: How about some feedback about New Yanoff?

"Donald E. Stidwell" <[email protected]> Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:40:22 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.handhelds.palm.yanoff
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 23:49, Gregg Woodcock wrote:
>
> I think Browser launch is going to be relatively easy so it'll probably
> happen regardless.
> VFS is by far the most difficult and I am laothing tackling that one.  The
> NVFS of the T5 has made VFS a disaster.
> In other words, the poll results will *influence* but not dictate what will
> be in 4.0.

And VFS support, now that I think about it, is probably not that big a deal 
given the amount of RAM in devices like the Zodiac 2, T3 and T5. It may not 
be worth breaking your head over.

> > I am that rare bird that reads newsgroups exclusively on my PDA.
>
> As am I!
>
> > Up until you released v3, I read my newsgroups on
> > my Pocket PC with Qusnetsoft NewsReader.
> > Now that I have New Yanoff V3, I do my news reading on my T3.
>
> I've never used any PPC reader but I am sure your use of Qusnetsoft's
> reader can provide valuable insights for New Yanoff.  Please do elaborate
> about what was good about how they do it...

In terms of functionality, they're almost identical. Of course they look 
different, but different OS, different devices. Qusnetsoft does allow you to 
download group names or browse them while connected, much like a desktop 
newsreader does which can be beneficial. With Yanoff, you have to know the 
newsgroup you're looking for. With Qusnetsoft, you can search and browse the 
one you want. Qusnetsoft also has card support, but that's pretty standard on 
Pocket PC and I imagine easier to implement than on the Palm (and more 
necessary since the Pocket PC isn't as efficient in RAM use as the Palm).

Qusnetsoft also From/Subject/Date at the top of a post in a different colour 
from the body of the post. It also has the ability to decode binary posts, 
I'm told, although since I don't subscribe to any binary newsgroups that 
functionality is unimportant to me. 

But overall, in a real world sense, the functionality between Yanoff+ and 
Quesnetsoft is pretty identical. I just prefer Yanoff+ because I prefer using 
my T3 because of its screen. Oh, and Qusnetsoft is slightly cheaper - I think 
I paid $18 for it.

> > I've only found a couple of flaws in the program and they're minor. When
>
> going
>
> > from one article to another, the article title doesn't seem to always
>
> clean
>
> > up after itself, so if you have an article with a long name and the next
> > article has a short name, part of the long name still remains when you
>
> pull
>
> > the short article.
>
> Does it always do this?  I have seen this occasionally on the simulator
> (don't have a real landscape device) but attributed it to the "debug"
> behaviours of simulating low-memory by skipping normal redraws/refreshes.
> This should be simple to fix...

It does it all the time. Not a show stopper by any means, just a bit ugly!

> > Also when scrolling in an article, often one of lines will get
> > highlighted which is kind of ugly, but otherwise no big deal.
>
> This is NOT A BUG; it is a VERY COOL feature.  Check out the help text for
> the "Scroll Cue" option on "Misc Prefs".  Let me know what you think about
> it...

Ah - so that's what that is. Okay. Thanks.

> > It would also be nice if when reading newsgroups with crossposts if when
> > reading the program would automatically skip over articles already marked
>
> as
>
> > read because of crossposting. (If there's a setting for this, I can't
> > find it).
>
> There are actually TWO ways to handle this (see, isn't it great when users
> comment and we have a conversation)!
> First, you could use a ButtonAction for "next unread" instead of "next
> article".
> Or, you could uncheck the "Multi-Index" option on "Poll Prefs" (read help
> text for more info).
> I do the latter (I also have a BA setup for "next unread", too, but for
> other reasons).

(Smacks self upside the head and then grins sheepishly). I knew I was missing 
something!

> > Quite frankly, the program works as advertised and I'm pleased. I am glad
>
> I
>
> > bought it and have no regrets. And that could be why you don't see much
> > traffic here - it does what you says it does and it does it well!
>
> Nah.  If that were true, I would be selling a LOT more keys!!!
>
> In any case, make these adjustments and then let me know how it works out.

You know Gregg, it'd be curious to see how many folks use Yanoff- versus 
Yanoff+. I suspect that because Yanoff- is so good, many folks don't see the 
need to buy Yanoff+. Maybe you need to emphasize more the differences between 
the two versions. Clearly, anyone with a Zodiac, T3 or T5 would gain an 
obvious benefit from + just by virtue of the wide screen support. Also you 
might want to get the word out to the major sites about +: I don't recall 
seeing it announced on sites like Brighthand, PalmInfoCenter, 1SRC or 
MobileRead. 

Oh, BTW - did you ever get that PocketPurchase issue straightened out? 
Remember, it bombed on me when I tried to purchase via PP when I had my 
Zodiac. (Don't know if it was an issue on other devices).

-- 
God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by 
whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. (Gal. 6:14)


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