Re: Re: How about some feedback about New Yanoff?

"Donald E. Stidwell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tuesday 15 March 2005 23:49, Gregg Woodcock wrote:
>
> In terms of functionality, they're almost identical. Of course they look
> different, but different OS, different devices. Qusnetsoft does allow you
to
> download group names or browse them while connected, much like a desktop
> newsreader does which can be beneficial.

I agree but it is properly categorized as a configuration feature (i.e.
RARELY used) so it automatically falls to the bottom of the list.
I'm sure I'll get around to it eventually, though (I even added some
infrastructure for it a while back)....

> Qusnetsoft also From/Subject/Date at the top of a post in a different
colour
> from the body of the post.

I've had people mention this but nobody has ever said they wanted it or
claimed they would ever use it.  It seems like a big waste of screen space
for something that is only 1 ButtonAction away in the rare circumstance
where header info is desired.  Would any of you ever run in a split-pane
mode with header info displacing body text?  I chalk this up to
TryingToBeOutlookExpressSyndrome.  Obviously, this is not on my todo list...

It is a new use for color, though...

> It also has the ability to decode binary posts,
> I'm told, although since I don't subscribe to any binary newsgroups that
> functionality is unimportant to me.

This is true of me as well but I have had ONE request for binary support and
the user claimed he would like to save image files to VFS (there's that
nasty VFS again).  I am considering this but obviously VFS support must come
first...

> > > up after itself, so if you have an article with a long name and the
next
> > > article has a short name, part of the long name still remains when you
> > > move to the short article.
> >
> > Does it always do this?  I have seen this occasionally on the simulator
> > (don't have a real landscape device) but attributed it to the "debug"
> > behaviours of simulating low-memory by skipping normal
redraws/refreshes.
> > This should be simple to fix...
>
> It does it all the time. Not a show stopper by any means, just a bit ugly!

I will fix this, hopefully for 3.1.

> > > It would also be nice if when reading newsgroups with crossposts if
when
> > > reading the program would automatically skip over articles already
marked
> > > as read because of crossposting. (If there's a setting for this, I
can't
> > > find it).
> >
> > There are actually TWO ways to handle this (see, isn't it great when
users
> > comment and we have a conversation)!
> > First, you could use a ButtonAction for "next unread" instead of "next
> > article".
> > Or, you could uncheck the "Multi-Index" option on "Poll Prefs" (read
help
> > text for more info).
> > I do the latter (I also have a BA setup for "next unread", too, but for
> > other reasons).
>
> (Smacks self upside the head and then grins sheepishly). I knew I was
missing
> something!

Note that unchecking Multi-Index is ignored (won't work) by the conduit.
Most of this is even in the FAQ!

> You know Gregg, it'd be curious to see how many folks use Yanoff- versus
> Yanoff+. I suspect that because Yanoff- is so good, many folks don't see
the
> need to buy Yanoff+. Maybe you need to emphasize more the differences
between
> the two versions. Clearly, anyone with a Zodiac, T3 or T5 would gain an
> obvious benefit from + just by virtue of the wide screen support.

Have you *tried* Yanoff-?  All of the cool options (probably about half of
all options) and all of the sophisticated ButtonActions pop up a "Must
upgrade to Yanoff+" alert.  It has to be maddeningly frustrating for Yanoff-
users (I remember how frustrated I was with GPL; that's why I took up the
New Yanoff project)!  Plus, all of the article cleanup and decoding options
are unavailable.  Do you remember what it was like to see so much html
before NY would auto-decode the multi-part MIME segments and save only the
plain text?  Well Yanoff- users still have to deal with that!  I just can't
imagine anyone who uses Yanoff- on any regular basis being able to tolerate
it knowing that for a measly $24 they could have heaven in their hands!
Maybe I'm wrong though.  I really have no idea how many GPL/Yanoff- users
there are but I assume it is many thousands.

> Also you
> might want to get the word out to the major sites about +: I don't recall
> seeing it announced on sites like Brighthand, PalmInfoCenter, 1SRC or
> MobileRead.

I hit all those guys except MobileRead (thanks for the tip; just submitted
info).
Search the sites for "Yanoff" and you should find the 3.0 press release
posted.
Being a Usenet guy, I shun web forums for the most part.

> Oh, BTW - did you ever get that PocketPurchase issue straightened out?
> Remember, it bombed on me when I tried to purchase via PP when I had my
> Zodiac. (Don't know if it was an issue on other devices).

I reported it to them and a PocketPurchase SDK update was just released
yesterday so I'll find out soon!





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