Re: Re: RE: Re: (...)and Java Questions

> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:01:10 -0400
> From: Matthew Zaleski <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Zaurus-general] RE: Re: (...)and Java Questions
> To: <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <2003101611110.279961@kirk>
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> No disagreement here.  What I'm looking for is a heavyweight
Swing-enabled
> 1.4.x JVM on my Zaurus.  If memory recalls correctly, none of the
JVM's
> are in that boat.  If I'm wrong, I would be delighted to hear of the
> beastly JVM that rocks the boat.
>

One of the ones that I mentioned is supposed to have a lightweight swing
replacement.  I am new to java and haven't explored it yet, so your on
your own.

> 
> My biggest gripe with the "lightweights" as I call them is the massive
> fragmentation of the GUI features both between desktop and palmtop and
> among the palmtop JVM's themselves.  I've researched, but not used,
some
> of the JVM's and Swing replacements mentioned.  The palmtop Java app
> developer's situation seems to be none-too-desirable.
> 

There was a great blog entry on O'Reilly Net (www.oreillynet.com) the
other day titled "What If the iApps had been jApps?" and is the basis
for a talk that will be given at the upcoming MacOS conference (Why Mac
users HATE Java.)

It is a fascinating portrayal of what Java COULD be... I got excited
reading it and only then remembered that it was a fiction piece.

Too bad too... I would hope that Sun would pay attention to this one
entry and change the world of computing.

Check it out:  http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/3889

Oreillynet is a great way to start your day, by the way... my homepage.

>
> None of my arguments apply to the cell-phone developers.  They have
major
> constraints on footprint and horsepower that high-end palmtops can
> generally ignore.
> 
> Perhaps the ideal world would be for IBM and Sun to get along on Java
GUI
> stuff and support both Swing/AWT and IBM's SWT in more
environments/IDE's.
> My guess is that SWT would have better performance on a handheld.
> 

It does seem odd that IBM which seems to be embracing the Zaurus with
some of its websphere and other enterprise development technologies
isn't releasing more tools for the platform.

Hmmm???

>
> -Matt
> 

* All opinions are my own and not those of anyone else or any other
institution.  No one else would want them.*