Re: Apache proposal for NetBeans

For what it's worth, I think LibreOffice killed OpenOffice more than 
Oracle+Apache. :) I'm cautiously optimistic about this move. For what 
little that's worth.


On 9/13/16 12:27 PM, geertjan wielenga wrote:
>
> Yup. For many (many) years, a variety of community members have wanted 
> more transparency and more say in the direction of NetBeans. Well, 
> with Apache that's exactly what you get. But with that comes 
> responsibility. We'll all co-own NetBeans and, yes, Oracle will be 
> involved, I believe, for a long time, probably in one way or another 
> for ever, though the community as a whole will need to step up now too.
>
> Gj
>
> On 13-9-2016 19:22, Wade Chandler wrote:
>> I am very excited about the move myself. I think it will make 
>> contributing the the platform/core and the IDE easier for 
>> individuals, and Apache has a good track record overall.
>>
>> Wade
>>
>>
>> ===================
>>
>> Wade Chandler
>> e: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2016, at 13:14, geertjan wielenga 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Quite a few large Oracle products make use of the NetBeans Platform, 
>>> e.g. this is an important one:
>>>
>>> https://www.oracle.com/tools/developerstudio/index.html
>>>
>>> And those kind of tools are developed in NetBeans IDE. Also, several 
>>> large Oracle partners make use of the NetBeans Platform and NetBeans 
>>> IDE.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, we really do need to make use of this opportunity 
>>> and get everyone involved in one way or another, large or small, in 
>>> Apache NetBeans, to drive it forward together.
>>>
>>> Plus, working on a meaningful project like NetBeans is fun. :-)
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On 13-9-2016 19:10, Charles Bedon wrote:
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand I think it's good for
>>>> the community and the product that the governance of the project does
>>>> not rely mostly on a single company (even more on the unpredictable
>>>> Oracle). But on the other hand, I'm afraid that, with time, NB follows
>>>> the steps of OpenOffice. The NB community is big and a lot of
>>>> companies have put serious money in NB-based projects, but it's clear
>>>> that without a big name behind, the project may lose significant
>>>> traction. I really hope this is not the case, but again, with Oracle,
>>>> you never know.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> On 9/13/16, geertjan wielenga <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> A heads up -- we'd like to simplify and streamline the process of
>>>>> contributing and being part of the NetBeans ecosystem.
>>>>>
>>>>> The current NetBeans governance model is quite opaque and 
>>>>> invisible and
>>>>> we think having our project be an Apache project, like Apache 
>>>>> Maven and
>>>>> Apache Groovy, is a sensible direction to that end.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the proposal published over the past hour:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal
>>>>>
>>>>> Take note of the many initial committers, which includes James Gosling
>>>>> (father of Java), a range of developers from various organizations, as
>>>>> well as a big group from Oracle.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a LOT that needs to be done, though the proposal makes the
>>>>> intentions clear.
>>>>>
>>>>> Onwards to exciting times,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>
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