Re: fr.netbeans.org

Jack Catchpoole a écrit :

> Vincent Brabant wrote:
>
>>>> just to say that I posted to Jack the version 0.1 of the 
>>>> fr.netbeans.org site.
>>>
>
> I've just created fr.netbeans.org :
>
>   http://fr.netbeans.org/
>
> [ Though I did not check in any of your content yet Vincent - I
> think we still need to finalise guidelines for directory
> structure, see comments further down. ] 

Many thanks.

>
>
> Vincent, you are the owner of the project.  You should have full
> checkin permissions, also you should be able to edit project
> parameters on the Admin page :
>
>   http://fr.netbeans.org/servlets/ProjectEdit
>
> (though actually nothing much there should be chnaged).  You
> should be able to "invite" other members, and grant them
> different levels of permissions for the site, at :
>
>   http://fr.netbeans.org/servlets/ProjectMemberList
>
> The normal guides for setting up websites might be useful,
> though you probably know much if not all of this already :
>
>   http://www.netbeans.org/community/guidelines/web-guide.html
>   http://www.netbeans.org/community/guidelines/module-navigation.html
>
>> In the first phase, french documents will continue to exists on both 
>> places (fr and www)
>> When the scripts will be updated, I will remove the french documents 
>> from the www site.
>
>
> Agreed, thanks (btw probably better to *not* include KB META
> tags in either the fr docs, or remove them from the www versions,
> because the KB scripts will find and list both if they both
> exist). 

Ok. So I will comment all KB Meta tags from the fr docs.

>
>
>> I proposed to create a xml that will do the corresponding between 
>> fr.netbeans.org website and xxx.netbeans.org
>> But the dtd of that xml file is not defined.
>>
>> I propose a very simple xml structure:
>> <pages translation="fr">
>>  <page url="http://www.netbeans.org/.../.../afile.html" 
>> url-translation="http://fr.netbeans.org/.../frenchfile.html" />
>>  ...
>>  <page .../>
>> </pages>
>>
>> It's just a proposal.
>
>
> Actually, I would prefer that the directory structure of www is
> mirrored for lang.nb.org websites.  I think we discussed this at
> one time.  Eg :
>
> On www, we have : www/www/kb/using-netbeans/index.html
>
> On fr, we have : fr/www//kb/using-netbeans/index.html 

I don't like the fact that directory structure of www is mirrored.
Just because I would like to translate also documents that are not 
hosted in www module, like the Ant FAQ for example.
And also it permits me to start from scratch and have a better site 
structure than the www one, at least for our site.
And if you are changing the www structure, I have only to change the 
mapping.xml file and not all the structure.


> or even : fr/www/kb/using-netbeans/index_fr.html
>
> What do you think ?  The last option I suggest bcs that naming
> scheme (_$lang) is quite standard online, maybe we should use
> it even though we are on $lang.nb.org.

Personally, I prefer fr/www/.../index.html
The reason is the following:
If I type the following url http://fr.netbeans.org/
I am sure that the main page will be displayed.
Reason is that all browsers are configured to search the index.html

>
> Finally, as you know, we have not worked out a lot of the details
> about how to handle and properly integrate our $lang.nb.org
> websites.  Vincent, you work faster than we can set up guidelines :-)
> But I don't want to see you/the FR team waste effort, or have to
> go back and change things.  I also want all $lang projects to have
> consistent structure and functionality - the guidelines you/we work 
> out for fr.nb.org should be the blueprint for future language
> sites.  So we have to get it right! :-) 

OK. So i am waiting for your reaction about not mirroring 
[lang].netbeans.org.
But any other proposals are welcome.

>
> I urge you to proceed carefully, and propose/discuss your plans
> on the webteam@ list.
>
> And lastly - congratulations to Vincent for starting the first
> language project on netbeans.org, and in fact helping drive the
> whole process to liftoff! :-)
>
> Of course, any problems or questions please let me know.
>


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Vincent Brabant
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