Re: widgets plan proposal

> This means whatever was focused (say, a text field) looses focus,
> passes it to the unfocusable (a button in a toolbar), and then gets it
> back. This unfocus/focus stage could cause a few problems with certain
> widgets. Say you had a selection in the text, and you hit a copy
> button. Is the text still selected when the copy action runs?

Good point.  Charlie says that this is already done by setting the button as 
focusable=false for a temporary nonfocusable, or setting subfocusable if it's 
never to be focusable.

This brings up another point -- IMO keyboard focus (tab/shift-tab, some 
alt-key modifiers for everything, whatever the theme uses) should not be an 
option.  Toolbar buttons _should_ be focusable.  so the fark what if you have 
to click back on your main app, I am pushing for accessibility here.

hotkeys (optional alt-key or ctrl-key sequences) are just that -- optional.  
having every widget hittable from keyboard is IMO, not an option.

> Wouldn't it be better if a clickable could be clicked without the focus
> ever moving? The copy simply happens, the the text field stays where it
> was.

Yes and no.  :-)

> I suppose the goal should be to come up with a model that specifically
> details how it handles each and every word we use (selected, focused,
> clicked, dragged, dropped, focusable, editable, etc), and then a
> document for each theme that details how we translate our language into
> the actions of the specific theme.

Agreed.  It seems like we're doing it a bit backward now... get everything 
standardized and then write the documentation that the widgets adhere to.   
It's typical in the marketplace but it is backward.  :-)

> Sounds like a study project. You'd have to get a full design for each
> theme your implementing, and then map our design to it. This is the
> point I got to in the widget library when my patches started dropping
> off. I just didn't want to keep coding knowing that I should be
> creating this documentation, and my code was starting to go in circles.

I could see that.  It's tiring to continue working only to see that the more 
you work, the more work you're creating for yourself.

Regards,
Andrew

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