Re: Bush began Iraq plan pre-9/11

Guillaume Laurent <[email protected]> Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:23:37 +0100
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On Tuesday 13 January 2004 19:27, Andreas Pour wrote:
>
> I believe the official Warsaw "liberation" date is Jan. 17, 1945 (Auschwitz
> was liberated on Jan. 26); the Red Army reached Danzig on March 30 (on
> April 1 the Red Army began the seige of Berlin, which was occupied on May
> 2, 1945).

I stand corrected. In 44 they had regained all the territory invaded by the 
German army.

> > and Communism was a very significant political
> > force all throughout Europe.
>
> Less so after the war.

Not immediately after, and that doesn't really matter to how the US viewed to 
situation during the war, does it ?

> > I don't recall the US helping the Soviets at Yalta...
>
> That is where Eastern Europe was handed to Stalin to enslave with his
> Communism.

I know about the Yalta summit, thank you :-). But I don't see how you can say 
that the US helped the Soviets in any way. Stalin was the strong man at 
Yalta, Churchill was hardly relevant and Roosevelt was near the end of his 
life. Stalin just officially took what he had gained militarily. The URL you 
give seems to support this.

> Opening borders was a great thing, but where is it headed?  Dictatorship? 
> That seemed to be the direction before the constitutional assembly was
> abandoned due to questions of legislative representation.

Dictatorship ?? In the EU ? Even if we "falsely believe that we are free", I 
can assure you : the EU is just too much of a mess to ever be a 
dictatorship :-).

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