Re: Bush began Iraq plan pre-9/11

Guillaume Laurent <[email protected]> Tue, 13 Jan 2004 23:42:39 +0100
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On Tuesday 13 January 2004 21:43, Andreas Pour wrote:

> What does Roosevelt's health have to do with it?

Next time you have an important interview, try something like staying up all 
night, running a marathon or something. See if being in good shape has 
anything to do with it :-).

> And how was Stalin  strong?

He already had conquered half of Europe ?

> Do you think if the US had dropped the A-Bomb on Moscow and Volgograd
> (Stalingrad) rather than Nagasaki and Hiroshima, and firebombed St.
> Petersburg (Leningrad) and Nizhny Novgorod rather than Tokyo and Dresden,
> that Stalin would have been "strong" enough to stop it?  Of course not, and
> Communism would have been "dead", so to speak.

AFAIK the US didn't have the capability to drop a nuclear bomb over Moscow at 
the time, and the very 1st nuclear test in History occurred 4 months after 
Yalta. And they still had their hands full elsewhere.

> But instead of the "strong" Soviet Union these acts of destruction were
> brought against the "weak" Germans and Japanese.  This was a selection of
> targets.  (And obviously Roosevelt - despite his physical condition - was
> "strong" enough to select them.)

When Yalta took place, the germans were already pretty much defeated.

> And who wanted Communism to survive (indeed, to take over the world) at
> that time (hint:  not Stalin, indeed that is why the international
> Communists hated Stalin, who they claim "stole" the revolution)?

Woah, I don't think I'm prepared to follow you here :-).

> > Dictatorship ?? In the EU ? Even if we "falsely believe that we are
> > free", I can assure you : the EU is just too much of a mess to ever be a
> > dictatorship :-).
>
> Hehe, well Europe has plenty of history of dictatorship (par. if you
> include monarchy under the rubric).  Now tell me, please,

The point of building Europe was precisely to put an end to this history of 
dictatorship.

>   * how many Europeans voted for Berlusconi as EU President; and
>   * how many Europeans should be eligible to vote for their President?

The European presidency is held by a country, not a person, and currently 
changes every 6 months.

> And then explain to me why that is not a dictatorship

I'm not sure that would be of much use, really.

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