Re: VM images and working in the VM image

Colin Putney <[email protected]> Sun, 13 May 2007 10:40:09 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.strongtalk
Message-ID <[email protected]>

On May 12, 2007, at 5:47 PM, Ted Neward wrote:

> Case in point: ST's notion of the IDE-in-the-image is pretty lame when
> looking to deploy an image within a "headless" environment. Is  
> there another
> approach when trying to build a server? Surely when running  
> Seaside, for
> example, I don't want or need the overhead of the IDE hanging  
> around.... It
> might be useful in certain scenarios, but most of the time, it's  
> just going
> to be useless overhead....

Not at all. It's true that you don't want useless overhead, but the  
space-to-utility tradeoff of the IDE is excellent. I can't count the  
number of times I've solved problems in a running server using the  
IDE. With Seaside/Squeak, it's an especially nice combination,  
because you can connect to the "headless" Squeak image with VNC, and  
get at the IDE that way. On the other hand, the "overhead" pretty  
small. A production image for a Seaside server I'm running is under  
12 MB. That includes the IDE, versioning system, VNC server,  
application code and libraries. It's hard to say how much of that is  
the IDE, but it can't be much.

Colin

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