Re: BinaryCloud vs RubyOnRails

Well, if I had my way, I'd be doing all my web development with 
python+cherrypy+cheetahtemplate (i.e., subway: 
http://subway.python-hosting.com)

Unfortunately, the webhosts my clients wish to use rarely support python or 
ruby :(  So, I am stuck with php.  As such, I was very glad to find BC... it 
let me do a lot more, with a lot less php.

So, I would hate to see BC just abandon php... unless of course more webhosts 
start supporting python/ruby...

MWM


On Monday 13 June 2005 07:28 pm, alex black wrote:
> hey mike,
>
> It's funny you mention that, because I'm in the process of writing a
> message to the list about abandoning PHP, and contributing a lot of our
> heavy stuff which RoR is missing.
>
> I'm using rails on two projects right now, it has some great tools and
> some flaws - but ruby (and python, for that matter) are so far and away
> better than PHP that I think it's pointless to continue with a language
> like PHP - it's just masochism ;)
>
> I like twisted/nevow as well, but I think rails is a more mature
> framework with a larger app dev community - lots of people are using
> rails on real commercial web apps.
>
> But rails is young: it doesn't have RBAC, it's missing some validation
> stuff, there is no form toolkit to speak of, etc etc - so a _lot_ of
> the work we did is useful / good / etc.
>
> I also don't like the rails template system - it doesn't really have
> one, just like oldskool-php, called 'ERB': <%= ruby-statement %>
> (FUGLY) which many used and eventually abandoned through experience.
>
> I think we could contribute a great deal to rails, and in the process
> gain what we have always been missing in bc: an excellent OR layer
> (ActiveRecord).
>
> My much longer message was going to explain my decision to switch all
> of turing's development to rails, but I guess that's moot now - so
> there it is: I will be using rails for all future projects, and would
> love it if many BCers would come along with me and contribute the
> amazing shit we built here to rails :)
>
> _a
>
> > Hi,
> > Has anybody on this list had a chance to compare BC
> > with RoR?
> >
> > I came across this interesting statement from Turing
> > at
> > <http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/show/CommercialSupport>
>
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