Re: [native-lang] Re: [Fwd: Re: [Issue 103426] Albanian team leader not active for 4 years]

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Hi,
We (flossk) have gotten the sources from shumbin, he is very busy.
He came and spoke at the conference, I will have the videos online in some
time.
Agron is also part of flossk, I would like to see flossk taking a larger
role in openoffice,
it would be great to hold a openoffice workshop in kosovo and albania,
can we get someone to come to one of the conferences this year:
http://kosovasoftwarefreedom.org/
http://www.wikicfp.com/cfp/servlet/event.showcfp?eventid=8871
thanks,
mike

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 2010-03-06, at 04:07 , Open Office Shqip wrote:
>
> > Hi to everyone,
> >
> > I appoologize for not replying earlier in this issue, as I was offline
> for
> > some time.
> >
> > Dear Loius, Charlkes and Agron,
>
> ….and also the entire list and world: these archives are public.
>
> >
> > Thanks for your interesting on making the albanian localization 'live'
> again
> > in OO.o site, but  we have taken some efforts to make it live in FLOSSK
> > (Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova). So it's the work that we are
> > tryibg to accomplish in localising the updates for OO.o 3.+, and having
> new
> > young people on team, on the field.
> >
> > Otherwise, I do not have any problem if you want to handle the Albanian
> Lead
> > to Agron, but just I would like to be sure that this will not lead only
> to
> > this small step.
> > As we know, the OO.o source if free to be downloaded, localizes and
> build.
> > If Agron or anyone come's up with updated localisation, I would be more
> than
> > happy. So, feel free to decide, but just let's have results as proof.
> >
> > Unfortunately, so far, only my team have developed something so far. I'm
> > aware that it didn't went as expected, but that's life.
>
> Agroni, et al., let's work together on this. :-)
>
> >
> > Looking forward for a progress in OO.o Albanian.
> >
> > Best Regards,
>
> > Shkumbin
> >
> Shkumbin: a personal request. Please consider changing your email alias.
> Right now, it's "Open Office Shqip" and that would suggest to someone
> unfamiliar with us and our policies that you are a representative (in some
> official capacity) of OpenOffice.org. I'm sure you do not want to confuse
> people, so please change the alias to something less confusing. Thanks.
>
> -louis
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Louis Suarez-Potts <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> To reiterate the point:
> >>
> >> A. For Albanian localization, please work with and within the l10n
> project:
> >> http://l10n.openoffice.org and [email protected].  NLC is no
> really
> >> suited for localization efforts. Please work there to coordinate your
> >> efforts.
> >>
> >> B. it's possible (likely?) that you are the only one working on this. Is
> >> that the case? Do you know? What have you done to determine that?
> >>
> >> C. Let's say that others join you in this effort to localize OOo to
> >> Albanian and that this is sustainable... in that case, forming an NLC
> >> project makes sense. So:
> >>
> >> 1. If the supposed lead of the Albanian project has not responded to you
> or
> >> to us (and I'm cc'ing him here) within a reasonable period of time--say
> >> within this week--and if there is a living community (uhm,  say
> active--why
> >> discriminate against the zombies? that's a joke.)--then work with them
> by
> >> using the project list to move the localization ahead.
> >>
> >> 2. It may be that you need the permissions to update the webpages, etc.
> If
> >> no one is there to grant you those within the project, I can do that for
> >> you. Effectively, you would become the project lead, though webmaster is
> not
> >> the same as lead. Still, to make it easier for all, you should
> co-ordinate
> >> with the existing community, if any, on this issue, so that who is in
> >> control of the pages and lists is known and accepted by all.
> >>
> >> I hope this gets you started. Basically, it comes down to this: Don't
> wait
> >> on ceremony (but don't be rude, of course) and do get going on  the
> >> localization if you have the resources or energies to get others to work
> on
> >> it.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Louis
> >> On 2010-03-01, at 23:34 , Linux Master wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Please, can anyone look into my issue?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hello dev list,
> >>>>
> >>>> Since August 2009 I have been trying to join the Albanian team (sq),
> but
> >> there has not been any response for far.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have not received any response from the team leader Shkumbin Saneja
> at
> >> all. Since the last piece of work this team did was for OOO 1.1.4 I
> believe
> >> this team is not active anymore.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please look into this matter. If the current team leader needs to
> >> approve things, it means that the whole team is inactive because of him.
> >>>>
> >>>>> From what I can see, the last thing this team did was almost 5 years
> >> ago.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please help. I want to take over this project and get some active
> people
> >> involved. Many have gone to launchpad and are translating OpenOffice for
> >> Ubuntu in Albanian. For me, that's not the right level to translate
> since
> >> only Ubuntu and sub distros of Ubuntu will benefit.
> >>>> But, can only guess that many of them tried to register here, but
> >> because no one admitted they have found another place to have fun.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> //Agroni
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Subject:
> >>>> Re: [Issue 103426] Albanian team leader not active for 4 years
> >>>> From:
> >>>> Louis Suarez-Potts <[email protected]>
> >>>> Date:
> >>>> Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:34:55 -0500
> >>>> To:
> >>>> [email protected]
> >>>>
> >>>> To:
> >>>> [email protected]
> >>>> CC:
> >>>> [email protected]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello, Agroni,
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2010-02-13, at 21:20 , [email protected] wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Charles and Louis,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Since August 2009 I have been trying to join the Albanian team (sq),
> >> but there has not been any response for far.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have not received any response from the team leader Shkumbin Saneja
> >> at all.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Since the last piece of work this team did was for OOO 1.1.4 I
> believe
> >> this team is not active anymore.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please look into this matter. If the current team leader needs to
> >> approve things, it means that the whole team is inactive because of him.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From what I can see, the last thing this team did was almost 5 years
> >> ago.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please help.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> //Agroni
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I think the best tactic here is to inform the broader lists via
> >> dev@native-lang and also dev@l10n about this situation. It's normal in
> >> Foss projects, which are often volunteer-run, for the responsible to
> >> disappear as they become engaged in other (often remunerative)
> activities.
> >> It's life. But equally, we can always and always are soliciting new
> >> interest.
> >>>>
> >>>> Given the nature of Albanian and its polity, I'd also wonder if it
> would
> >> help to engage government support?
> >>>> Foss saves money. Gives freedom. Builds local economies. Is good. :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Ciao
> >>>> Louis
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Feb 6, 2010 09:19:44 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> >>>>> To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue:
> >>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=103426
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> User agroni changed the following:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What |Old value |New value
> >>>>>
> >>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------- Additional comments from [email protected] Sun Feb 7
> >> 02:19:42 +0000 2010 -------
> >>>>> Still no response from no one.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Looks like the whole albanian team has abandoned this project.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please, assign me as a new albanian team leader.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Come on, please, it's been 6 months since the last post here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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