Re: Summing up and moving on (I hope)

"Bill Walton" <[email protected]> Mon, 16 Dec 2002 15:41:56 -0600
Newsgroups gmane.comp.programming.extreme-customering
Message-ID <02bf01c2a54b$f51094b0$6401a8c0@dp2000>
Ron Jeffries wrote:


> On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 2:54:04 PM, Bill Walton wrote:
>
> > From what I understand, Kent introduced XP to deal with a situation a
great
> > deal like this, and it worked.  He didn't seperate the two groups, he
> > brought them closer together and introduced a set of simple rules that
> > allowed them to interact in a much more productive manner.  I welcome
your
> > thoughts on the analogy to this list.
>
> The XP rules are little rituals that seem to get people on track. Write
things
> on cards. Business people decide business issues, technical people decide
> technical issues. Concrete tests for everything. Small changes, simple
design,
> continuous improvement.
>
> The XP rules are not rules about who can talk to whom, what they can say,
or how
> they can say it. XP trusts that people are of good will, and that coming
> together, they will sort things out. Often this works.

It seems to me, not having experienced it of course, that XP places some
very healthy limits / boundaries on conversations between the business and
technical sides.  Doesn't XP rule out the business side commenting on the
validity of estimates?  Doesn't XP rule out the technical side commenting on
the validity of the business side's assessment of value?  Doesn't ruling
these things out go a long way toward having to deal with the tone issue
altogether?  Just asking.

Bill


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